Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Soap Opera Network Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Featured Replies

  • Replies 323
  • Views 37k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

  • Member
56 minutes ago, Khan said:

I agree, @DramatistDreamer.  I, too, chose not to watch, figuring I could catch Susan Lucci's speech later on YT (which I did).  The days of the industry giving a damn about the soaps are long over.

Sad to say, I haven’t even made it over to YT to watch any clips. I suppose, at sometime I will. The people producing the soaps are doing the minimum, so it’s not surprising that others stopped caring. There are things they could have done to restore some respect to the genre but no one in charge seems interested. I mentioned this the other day in the Degrassi thread, I mean, that series is getting it own docuseries, while a genre that has been around for practically fourscore decades can only manage a handful of podcasts.

  • Member

Update: The reason Jacqueline MacInnes Wood thanked Kimberlin Brown is probably (?) because Kimberlin was on her reel...
In the Emmy winners interview area at the Emmys, JMW told soaphub what her reel was. Part of the reel was about Kimberlin shooting Steffy and Finn and the aftermath.  and other stuff that year. I didn't quite hear everything JMW said.

That's the first time I've seen JMW's reel mentioned.
To keep everything together, I posted that interview on page five of what has become the "reels thread"
https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/65437-daytime-emmys-to-now-air-on-december-15th/page/5

Edited by janea4old

  • Member
2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Oh totally. I was watching in real time, so was hopeful that they’d do more of those types of tributes throughout the ceremony. I was disappointed that they didn’t. Obviously, Jackie Zeman’s passing was almost completely ignored, and she’s a five-decade icon of soaps and multiple Emmy nominee who was still part of her show. 

It was definitely clear that no one in production had much love for soaps.  Why not super serve your viewers? The only people watching an Emmy ceremony… on a Friday night… during the holidays… following a tree-lighting ceremony… are going to be loyal daytime fans.

I get that the leaders of these organizations have obligations, but the president’s speech and the presentation of the medals also ate up a lot of time that could have gone to other things (like clips, which are a huge part of awards ceremonies). And the Primetime Emmy ceremonies had started to cut a lot of the presenters’ banter in recent years, which give them more time for clips. Just a very dull and disrespectful production last night.

The SAG Awards do a great In Memoriam year after year and they are just a little over three minutes. Very simple concept. Obviously the Academy is too cheap to acquire the clips and/or cut them together:

https://youtu.be/a968G4bUKqE?si=cuYUzfgGaR0K844w 

 

Indeed, the SAG Memoriam is like that of BAFTA and the British Soap Awards. There is no cost to use footage because the clips are so short, so they fall under the fair use exceptions in the Copyright legislation. Instead, it's that the Academy is simply so lazy and heartless that they do nothing to honour the people who created and sustained the industry. 

I only hope Jackie Zeman, Andrea Evans, Billy Miller and all the other talented performers that died this year will be properly remembered by SAG as Jeanne Cooper, Stuart Damon, and John Aniston were. Apparently, National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences doesn't give a damn.

2 hours ago, Khan said:

This country is fucked if a reporter don't know who the hell Susan Lucci is.

The country is utterly fucked. 

I thought it interesting that Susan had notes for her speech, but didn't look at them once and went off book. She went with her heart. 

4 hours ago, janea4old said:

https://twitter.com/KristaAllenXO/status/1735851767580254675 

WmEdIjM.png 
Krista Allen made this gracious statement.  Even though B&B let her go.
Class. 

What a classy person. I hope there is big success around the corner for Krista Allen. 

3 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

I watched the In Memoriam and Susan's Lifetime Achievement segments on YouTube, and that's it lolol

Susan's segment was fantastic outside of Shemar thinking we're in 2012.

The In Memoriam...ugh. What exactly is the rationale for focusing so much attention on the live singer during the segment? Why is there a live singer? And did I see correctly - when we see the bits with the live singer, there's literally a random logo on the screen in the venue? No one has any business claiming that there's "only so much time" for the segment when so much of that time is wasted. I also don't understand how they could put "& The Bay" for people who were on real daytime soaps and also on The Bay but couldn't be bothered to say that Elizabeth Hubbard was on The Doctors "& As the World Turns" or that Quinn Redeker was on Days "& Y&R" or the fact that they just called John Aniston a Lifetime Achievement honoree but couldn't be bothered to say that he was popular on three long-running soaps.

And as a fan of both Olivia Newton-John and Suzanne Somers, neither one had any business being included in this. Daytime is its own community and lost so many of its own people, there's nothing gained from trying to co-opt stars who belong to other areas of entertainment, especially when there were plenty of true daytimers who were left out. Olivia Newton-John as "songwriter, As the World Turns" but not a peep for Nancy Frangione, who played two of daytime's most pivotal roles, is a joke, and whomever made those decisions should be ashamed of themselves.

I love both Olivia Newton-John and Suzanne Somers...but I agree. If excluding them would have meant Jackie Zeman and Andrea Evans could have had a moment of footage in tribute, I'd have been for that. 

12 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

I love both Olivia Newton-John and Suzanne Somers...but I agree. If excluding them would have meant Jackie Zeman and Andrea Evans could have had a moment of footage in tribute, I'd have been for that. 

And WHY did they list Andrea as only Rebecca, Passions?!! No, Tina, OLTL! Geeze. 

  • Member

Ratings were predictably terrible -- an 0.14 rating in the 18-49 demo and 2.03 million viewers. That's about half the size of Shark Tank's ratings and also less than the soaps draw every day of the week.

  • Author
  • Member
6 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Ratings were predictably terrible -- an 0.14 rating in the 18-49 demo and 2.03 million viewers. That's about half the size of Shark Tank's ratings and also less than the soaps draw every day of the week.

Hallmark movies get higher ratings than those numbers.

Colton Little movie had 3.1 million viewers recently.

  • Author
  • Member

Time

Show

18-49 Rating

18-49 Share

Viewers (mil)

Network

8 PM WWE SmackDown 0.51 7 2.15 Fox
  Shark Tank 0.31 4 3.14 ABC
  Dolly Parton's Coat of Many Colors (R) 0.21 3 2.73 NBC
  National Christmas Tree Lighting 0.16 2 2.13 CBS
  The 91st Annual Hollywood Christmas Parade 0.06 1 0.55 The CW
9 PM 20/20 0.26 4 2.85 ABC
  The 50th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards 0.14 2 2.03 CBS
10 PM Dateline NBC 0.16 2 2.09 NBC
  • Member
8 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Time

Show

18-49 Rating

18-49 Share

Viewers (mil)

Network

8 PM WWE SmackDown 0.51 7 2.15 Fox
  Shark Tank 0.31 4 3.14 ABC
  Dolly Parton's Coat of Many Colors (R) 0.21 3 2.73 NBC
  National Christmas Tree Lighting 0.16 2 2.13 CBS
  The 91st Annual Hollywood Christmas Parade 0.06 1 0.55 The CW
9 PM 20/20 0.26 4 2.85 ABC
  The 50th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards 0.14 2 2.03 CBS
10 PM Dateline NBC 0.16 2 2.09 NBC

Granted, the network promo wasn’t great, and it was a postponed and quickly rescheduled ceremony, but those ratings are pathetic. Lowest of the night on among the broadcast networks. I wonder what the viewership by half-hour was. 

  • Webmaster

Regarding ratings, the standard isn't to be compared to the other shows aired on other networks that night but to be compared to what else aired on the network that night or that week. Considering its lead-in, the Emmys had limited audience to work with from the start.

Despite what I said above, I'm most interested in seeing how the GH primetime special does compared to the Emmys, simply because one will get a higher anticipated audience and likely better promo while the other was slotted more last minute and had to scramble to get things together.

  • Member
59 minutes ago, Errol said:

Regarding ratings, the standard isn't to be compared to the other shows aired on other networks that night but to be compared to what else aired on the network that night or that week. Considering its lead-in, the Emmys had limited audience to work with from the start.

Despite what I said above, I'm most interested in seeing how the GH primetime special does compared to the Emmys, simply because one will get a higher anticipated audience and likely better promo while the other was slotted more last minute and had to scramble to get things together.

How did the Y&R primetime special do compared to this? I know it's not a perfect comparison considering this is Friday night in the middle of a busy holiday season.

  • Member
4 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Okay, this sounds like just adding BTS folk into the "other version" of the IM segment. 

https://soaphub.com/days-of-our-lives/news-days/secrets-behind-the-50th-annual-daytime-emmys-preview

“One of the most difficult aspects of the production is [deciding] who gets into the telecast [In Memoriam] and who doesn’t,” Sharp somberly says. “How do you value a life? The telecast montage will be particularly heavy on those iconic names and faces of people we know. We’ll be putting extra content into the Creative Arts [ceremony] for people behind the scenes.”

That guy is an idiot. I'm not sure why it was considered important to include Olivia and Suzanne. It's not like having their faces on screen for two seconds a piece would bring in extra viewers. It really just reeks of desperation to be seen as mainstream, and it's pathetic that this is still what TPTB associated with daytime choose to do. As this genre withers away, we need people to protect its legacy and legends, but we just keep getting stone-steppers working really really hard at pretending to give a damn so that they can get to the job they really want.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.