2 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

The arrangement is no different than what Tracey Bregman, Beth Maitland, Eileen Davidson, and Jess Walton have all received. 

No. All of those actors were announced as recurring and are shown in the credits after the contract cast.

Looking at her episode count I'm wondering if Camryn Grimes isn't recurring also.

19 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Doug Davidson, Kristoff, Kate and Christian were always listed in the contract cast despite recurring status.

Didn't Doug explain that he was offered recurring but no statement would be made and he would stay in the credits as contract-ostensibly out of respect to the actors but actually to avoid backlash.

Except, Doug Davidson was credited as recurring. And Kate Linder, from my understand, has a lifelong main status deal, thanks to William J. Bell, so her credit is correct. CBS is pretty up to date on their statuses, and seem prompt in crediting those properly.

19 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

It's a sad state of affairs when we are surprised to see that set. Once upon a time it would be taken for granted that we would see a courtroom , hospital etc

What continues to puzzle me is the random nature of the use of these sets. Jack and Diane get a bedroom and we see a judge's chambers but no bedrooms or offices or living rooms for other characters.

Considering they don't have an over-night set crew, I credit them in giving us what they can. Surprised they are, too.

23 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

CLB hasn't been on contract for years. He was unavailable for some reason. Or maybe Vail is cheaper.

Was this ever confirmed? What annoys me is that Vail Bloom's hair changed 2-3 times in the episode. Consistency is missing, and it's jarring.

Catching up on previous replies…

I always thought Nate’s turn for the dark last year was brought on between a quest of revenge against Devon for what happened when Nate’s surgical hand was injured as well as Imani playing Lady MacBeth however JG never addressed the psychological reasons, something which is a terrible shame.

As for this week so far….

Shout out to the trio of actresses that is SW, AL, and ZS carrying the show at the moment for good performances this week.

FINALLY on Tuesday we got the scenes of AL Summer and Phyllis I was looking for way back in May I was looking for. Summer’s rejection on Tuesday and outright   cutoff on Friday were perfectly well done. Campy bad green screen roller coaster or not it at least allowed Summer to breath be fun for a moment….at Chance’s advice. We’ll    see where this goes.

I’m still for a Summer/Chance/Sally triangle lol.

It was minuscule but the scene of Diane confronting Audra at Crimson Lights was well done and played. ZS had done a great job of Audra on the defense this past week including her paranoia, yet ZS managed to hold her own against both SW and MTS. 

With SW Diane cementing herself into GC society I feel like Diane is a character we’ve needed to have for the last decade and it’s finally filled a gap. SW continues to be the lead and dominant actress on this show.

 

In regards to Phyllis I wish she would have had to don an orange jumpsuit again…I mean even Latham sent Phyllis to jail. At least Daniel & Summer still stood their ground in their rejection, but Phyllis & Lauren having a tea party in Chancellor Park was silly to see. 
 

 

Can’t hate. She looks damn good for pushing 60. For any age.

 

 

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On 8/10/2023 at 6:35 PM, Liberty City said:

Except, Doug Davidson was credited as recurring. And Kate Linder, from my understand, has a lifelong main status deal, thanks to William J. Bell, so her credit is correct. CBS is pretty up to date on their statuses, and seem prompt in crediting those properly.

Doug Davidson's contract was terminated in January of 2018.   The credits continued to show him as a contract player for the next nine months.  In September of 2018, he announced to the media that he'd actually been on recurring status for the entire year.   ("My contract was not renewed in January.  I went on recurring.  My understanding was it just until new people were in place.")  A couple of weeks following his public announcement that he'd been recurring for nine months, the cast list was updated to reflect he was no longer a part of the cast.

Kristoff St. John was shown as a contract cast member until his death in February of 2019.  A few weeks after Kristoff's death, Bryton revealed that Kristoff had been "very depressed, as he felt he no longer had a job."  (Evidently Kristoff had been bumped to recurring as well, though it was never reflected in the crawl.) 

Christian LeBlanc, Kate Linder and Camryn Grimes haven't made any public announcements about their status, but it's pretty obvious they no longer have traditional contracts with realistic episode guarantees.

[In 2022, Miss Grimes had only 53 appearances -- approximately 1 per week.  Christian LeBlanc had 34 appearances --- fewer than 3 per month.  Kate Linder had 6 appearances all year.]    

Edited August 12, 20232 yr by Broderick

@Broderick thanks for clearing that up.

From those numbers, if Camryn is on contract, it is with a 1 ep a week guarantee. I wonder if contracts still work on 13 week cycles ie with a once a week contract she wouldn't necessarily have to be on screen once each week but total 13 appearances over 13 weeks.

Edited August 12, 20232 yr by Paul Raven

4 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

@Broderick thanks for clearing that up.

From those numbers, if Camryn is on contract, it is with a 1 ep a week guarantee. I wonder if contracts still work on 13 week cycles ie with a once a week contract she wouldn't necessarily have to be on screen once each week but total 13 appearances over 13 weeks.

That seems like a terrible contract, IMO. Doesn't it mean that if she gets offered other work, they can prevent her from taking it if they need her to film that one episode per week, because she's technically on contract? I hope she's recurring or has "outs."

 

I also wonder why they can't give a contract or situation like that to someone like Billy Miller. I would take 53 appearances from him in a year over being subjected to Jason Thompson daily.

9 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

@Broderick thanks for clearing that up.

From those numbers, if Camryn is on contract, it is with a 1 ep a week guarantee. I wonder if contracts still work on 13 week cycles ie with a once a week contract she wouldn't necessarily have to be on screen once each week but total 13 appearances over 13 weeks.

Camryn is a good actress, but I do not want more appearances from her if all we get is the talk-to who dispenses wisdom. I really find that version of Mariah insufferable.

10 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

From those numbers, if Camryn is on contract, it is with a 1 ep a week guarantee. I wonder if contracts still work on 13 week cycles ie with a once a week contract she wouldn't necessarily have to be on screen once each week but total 13 appearances over 13 weeks.

Maybe her recent announcement is contributing to her lessened appearances? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Ugh. I can’t stand Lauren as Phyllis’s hype man. What a waste of the character. And it’s so forced and really underscores how desperate the show to make Phyllis sympathetic, which is a fool’s errand. We’re supposed to feel sad that Phyllis’s kids have abandoned her, when she deserves that and so much more.

It’s interesting that they have these characters who are parts of two families, but due to budget or lack of imagination, they can focus on only piece at a time (Summer and Abby are both Newmans, but they feel completely divorced from that side.)

On 8/12/2023 at 12:09 PM, BoldRestless said:

That seems like a terrible contract, IMO. Doesn't it mean that if she gets offered other work, they can prevent her from taking it if they need her to film that one episode per week, because she's technically on contract? I hope she's recurring or has "outs."

 

I also wonder why they can't give a contract or situation like that to someone like Billy Miller. I would take 53 appearances from him in a year over being subjected to Jason Thompson daily.

Jason Thompson is the best Adult Billy Abbott. Jess Walton says also he is her fave Billy.

2 minutes ago, David_Vickers said:

Jason Thompson is the best Adult Billy Abbott. 

Also Jason Thompson has played Billy the longest (7 years).

I tasked myself with watching Fri ep (must admit to some FFing)

The main thrust was Phyllis celebrating her freedom. It was unbearable for me to see her pity party of how hard done by she was and Lauren having to be her support. That nonsense of her collaborating with a criminal,  killing him, hiding the body to protect her kids! They are grown adults and thankfully gave her a serve for her psycho justifications.

Now the whole thing happened on the park set, where somehow Fylthllis had managed to set up a table for her celebration. There was Lauren keeping up the one shoulder dress tradition and, I'm sorry Tracey but the surgery and that awful hair is screaming waxwork. Lauren propping Phyllis was nauseating.

Summer and Daniel meet in her GCAC suite which is identical to Audra's. They don't bother to differentiate them with different accessories or furniture. But their next scene takes place in the GCAC entrance. 

Puzzling how set choices are made. Phyllis could have had a table at GCAC or CL. Seems like taping is all over the place.

Meanwhile Audra gets around-her GCAC suite, Crimson Lights, CGAC dining room and bacxk to her room. Lots of talk of mergers and takeovers but Audra doesn't actually do any work.

Sharon is channeling businesswoman vibes with talk of offices and staffing-from a table in empty CL.

And never a word on what these businesses are actually going to do.

This show....

23 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

 

And never a word on what these businesses are actually going to do.

 

I was laughing a few weeks ago when Sharon was saying they had to have Mariah's expert marketing skills for Cameron Kirsten enterprises. Marketing what?! 

Zuleyka Silver posted a clip of her audition tape: