54 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

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Phyllis is responsible for just as much (or more) s**t than Diane so her taking any kind of moral ground is nonsense.

I get the feeling that the D stories -we go from A to D on this show - are basically written to fill in airtime and give the rest of the cast something to do week to week.

Job changes, health scares, misunderstandings etc

AS MUCH?
She attempted murder! Twice!

Diane never was dangerous in that way.

4-8

 

That was a chore. lol.

 

However, I hollered at Adam trying to screw over Victoria's plans when all he had to do was sit back. But...like father, like father I guess.

 

Victoria should have just played all close to the vest and told NONE OF THEM. Okay, except for Nikki.

 

Realizing I'm not liking this new Chance. Still stuck on Mr. Melissa O I guess. 

9 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Victoria should have just played all close to the vest and told NONE OF THEM.

Bingo.

So bored with the Newmans. The Abbotts are so much more dynamic to me, even in their currently depleted state.

Edited April 14, 20223 yr by Faulkner

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

So bored with the Newmans. The Abbotts are so much more dynamic to me, even in their currently depleted state.

This! Today's episode dragged for me. It's reminded me of Bold and Beautiful with only story being told on screen and everyone else reacting to it. 

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

So bored with the Newmans. The Abbotts are so much more dynamic to me, even in their currently depleted state.

I’ve always been fonder of the Abbott’s since I got into Y&R.

9 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I’ve always been fonder of the Abbott’s since I got into Y&R.

The Newmans are so dominated by Victor. His kids are chess pieces that he moves around, and Nikki is a cowed, battered wife. I prefer the layered sibling dynamics of Jack, Ashley, Traci, and even Billy. Plus, they’re all played by superb actors (again, even Jason Thompson is fantastic, albeit miscast). The Nick/Victoria/Adam trio just doesn’t do much for me, and Victor/Nikki have no siblings on the canvas now to counterbalance them and bring out different colors in their characters.

34 minutes ago, Forever8 said:

This! Today's episode dragged for me. It's reminded me of Bold and Beautiful with only story being told on screen and everyone else reacting to it. 

It’s just the same old, same old. Victor shouts at one of his kids for betraying the other, demands family loyalty while offering none in return, etc.

6 hours ago, Khan said:

Bingo.

I was SMH so much during those scenes. 

 

She should have totally faked out everyone, but Nikki. Or better yet, Nikki would have seen through the act. 

 

She knows Nick will try to save her, Adam will try to either screw her over or betray her to Ashland outright (and Victor will probably forgive him), and Victor will try to oneup her because he can and hates Ashland more than he loves Victoria when it comes to business. 

 

She really should have gone it alone. 

 

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

I’ve always been fonder of the Abbott’s since I got into Y&R.

Me, too!!! I've lived for the Abbotts growing up. And I loved that was reference last week when Jack was talking to Allie about what it was like to be a member of the Abbott family with their breakfast routine because there are COUNTLESS flashbacks to be used because it was completely true and not just some made-up memory as writers tend to like to do.

 

 

1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

The Newmans are so dominated by Victor. His kids are chess pieces that he moves around, and Nikki is a cowed, battered wife. I prefer the layered sibling dynamics of Jack, Ashley, Traci, and even Billy. Plus, they’re all played by superb actors (again, even Jason Thompson is fantastic, albeit miscast). The Nick/Victoria/Adam trio just doesn’t do much for me, and Victor/Nikki have no siblings on the canvas now to counterbalance them and bring out different colors in their characters.

It’s just the same old, same old. Victor shouts at one of his kids for betraying the other, demands family loyalty while offering none in return, etc.

Same.

 

It should say something that through all the writing regimes in the last few years that the writers do seem drawn to the Abbotts rather than the Newmans. And that's sad because the Newmans are still written for and nothing new really comes of it even when the writers try. Meanwhile, the Abbotts could get just pieces of storyline and turn that little bit into threads of gold.

 

Just look at right now. The Abbotts are attached to the Diane Return Story. The Newmans are attached to the Ashland story. And one story is playing the beats for the most part and you can see the care the writers are putting into it. The story seems like people in a room talking in circles and no showing of any action or progression...like people talking just to talk rather than using the story to make some conflict. I think we can guess which story has more beats to it.    But seriously, just in what is going on it feels like you can tell what the writers like writing about and for versus who they don't care for. 

I am really enjoying Robert Newman as Ashland.  He is a great actor, and is adding a lot to the show.  I think he is actually making Amelia better!

I definitely think Robert Newman is a great recast. But I have always had a soft spot for 'Joshua.'  

6 hours ago, Forever8 said:

This! Today's episode dragged for me. It's reminded me of Bold and Beautiful with only story being told on screen and everyone else reacting to it. 

Same. I was disappointed there was no immediate Diane follow-up.
 

It was interesting watching Wednesday’s watching the the Abbott dynamic vs. the Newman. The Abbott dynamic felt pretty warm and the interaction between the four well, was dynamic and fun! The Newman’s just feel cold and icy, and the interaction just lukewarm and tiresome.

It would have more interesting if either Victor and/or Nikki have some type of inkling that Diane was alive creating at least some type of uneasy undercurrent to their family feud, like feeling distracted or distressed about something worse coming their way without letting the kids know about it but it be noticeable.

I agree Newman has done a terrific job as Ashland so far as been able to a wider range of emotions and energy than I think Burgi did. I probably sound like a broken record by now but Ashland needs additional relatives; this whole Newman-Locke story would have worked out far better with Locke kids from a previous marriage ingratiating themselves in GC as well. 
 

The past few weeks there’s only been A&B stories on the show, I guess they realized they rest just wasn’t working out and relegated everyone else to F and Z stories as talk to characters? LOL. 

7 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

The past few weeks there’s only been A&B stories on the show, I guess they realized they rest just wasn’t working out and relegated everyone else to F and Z stories as talk to characters? LOL. 

Yeah, they’ve pretty much ditched Chance/Abby/Devon/Amanda (thank god), the budding Chelsea/Rey attraction, Billy/Lily/couch, etc. The Teriah wedding is basically comic relief at this point.

9 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Yeah, they’ve pretty much ditched Chance/Abby/Devon/Amanda (thank god), the budding Chelsea/Rey attraction, Billy/Lily/couch, etc. The Teriah wedding is basically comic relief at this point.

I had to laugh when a clueless unaware Abby appeared for the first time in weeks enjoying a cup of coffee with Ashland completely oblivious to the Ashland situation. Like no one even bothered to fill her in? But yes thank god to that story being ditched. 

Devon & Amanda becoming neighbors with Nate & Elena is basically a tired sitcom plot.

Sharon is busy doling out cookies, coffee, and life advice at Crimson Lights like she is Caroline Brady or Nancy Hughes. 

Y&R is such a mess right now, it makes me sad.

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

It was interesting watching Wednesday’s watching the the Abbott dynamic vs. the Newman. The Abbott dynamic felt pretty warm and the interaction between the four well, was dynamic and fun! The Newman’s just feel cold and icy, and the interaction just lukewarm and tiresome.

Great minds....

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

I had to laugh when a clueless unaware Abby appeared for the first time in weeks enjoying a cup of coffee with Ashland completely oblivious to the Ashland situation. Like no one even bothered to fill her in?

IKR. Some things never change. lol.