6 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Rafe sucks. I don't know who votes on these polls. I didn't vote, lol. I like Nicole with both EJs and Eric. Rafe hasn't had one good pairing in 13 years. 

Rafe has been pointless since day 1.

7 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Rafe sucks. I don't know who votes on these polls. I didn't vote, lol. I like Nicole with both EJs and Eric. Rafe hasn't had one good pairing in 13 years. 

I liked Rafe in the beginning with Sami when they were in the safehouse.   I thought him and Christie Clark had okay chemistry too even though that pairing is universally reviled.

Those polls are crazy.  I remember the days when Liz/Jason would win all the GH couple polls and they weren't anywhere near a couple and Jasam would be second lol.

7 minutes ago, gtru1981 said:

Rafe has been pointless since day 1.

Rafe is here because someone thought Luis from Passions tested well with focus groups at NBC. That's it! He is a charisma void and even his initial story was a weak tea riff on Marlena and Roman and frankly beneath Sami's heights up to that point IMO.

He did have more chemistry with CC but people freaked out about that. He should've been fired years ago.

Edited December 22, 20213 yr by Vee

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I am just confused as to what the point of Lucas kidnapping Sami was?  Maybe if he staged a kidnapping with him and Sami together it would have made a tiny bit of sense, but why did he think locking her up for 3 months alone would make her love him?  How long was he going to keep her there?  Until she called him?  EJ already dumped Sami.  I am not sure why he didn't just make a move like a normal human that he mostly has been for the last 20 years.  I am glad Lucas got thrown under the bus because Ali had to make a Hallmark movie.

@AbcNbc247 I thought Lucas did have money.  He just lives at the Pub for some unknown reason. 

I like Johnny and Chanel just fine, but most of their story has taken place off screen in Italy.  They barely know each other.

Doesn't half of Salem live at the Inn? Why can't Shawn and Belle live at Bo's and Hopes home? I know Days has a crappy budget, but see one living room set and change it to reflect multiple characters home, other than them always at the Salem Inn.

49 minutes ago, carolineg said:

🤣 I did not see that eye-opening, popular vote from the 10 people that still subscribe to SOD.    GAMECHANGER.  I clearly have it wrong then.

I am not on a ton of boards, but I rarely can find a person that likes Rafe let alone ships him with anyone.   And honestly, I don't even mind Rafe.  He's just there like a doofus, but he doesn't bother me really.  Except when he talks to the bear

Soap Opera Digest still exist!!?? Who actually buys that magazine, probably someone's grandma lol 

4 minutes ago, gtru1981 said:

Doesn't half of Salem live at the Inn? Why can't Shawn and Belle live at Bo's and Hopes home? I know Days has a crappy budget, but see one living room set and change it to reflect multiple characters home, other than them always at the Salem Inn.

Belle and Shawn do live in Hope's house.  The last time they showed it was around Ciara's wedding to Theo I think. Xander, Gwen, and possibly Brady live at the Inn, which is ridiculous especially for two cash strapped people like Xander/Gwen.  A lot of people were living at Jarlena's townhouse in the summer-Sami, EJ, Brady, Susan, Claire.

Edited December 22, 20213 yr by carolineg

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

What kind of children is Kate raising? First Phillip and now Lucas. Are we getting another mother/son talk where Lucas tells Kate no one loves him?

Its Kate, she should win worst mother of the century award! Remember back in the 1990's, how she would interfere with Austin and Billie and their relationships with Carrie and Bo. 

Honestly, I am not shocked her kids are messed up! I wish they would write a story about her kids turning their backs on her, going to therapy and blaming her for everything.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Belle and Shawn do live in Hope's house.  The last time they showed it was around Ciara's wedding to Theo I think. Xander, Gwen, and possibly Brady live at the Inn, which is ridiculous especially for two cash strapped people like Xander/Gwen.  A lot of people were living at Jarlena's townhouse in the summer-Sami, EJ, Brady, Susan, Claire.

Aw, I don't watch the show everyday. It just seems the bedroom everyone always in, even in the Dimera house looks all the same, small and a typical NYC hotel room lol. Also, always ugly wallpaper!

I remember when Galen almost became Nick Newman on YR when Josh Morrow walked for a bit. That would have been bad casting

3 minutes ago, gtru1981 said:

Aw, I don't watch the show everyday. It just seems the bedroom everyone always in, even in the Dimera house looks all the same, small and a typical NYC hotel room lol. Also, always ugly wallpaper!

No worries.  Hope only has a living room anyway.  You aren't wrong about all the bedrooms looking the same.  

John/Marlena's bedroom is the only bedroom set that looked significantly different from the boxy rooms, but I haven't seen that room since their wedding in 2018? 19?

Ciara/Ben live in one room, so I hope they are planning to upgrade for the devil baby

When all this is over and Chloe dumps Phillip for good and Sami dumps Lucas ....I want Philip and Lucas to get drunk and sing as a duo..."I can't make you love me" as Kate watches.😂

48 minutes ago, John said:

I remember when Galen almost became Nick Newman on YR when Josh Morrow walked for a bit. That would have been bad casting

I don't even watch Y&R and I know that's bad casting.

Remember when we were actually rid of Galen for a hot minute? And then he came back. Sigh... 

49 minutes ago, carolineg said:

No worries.  Hope only has a living room anyway.  You aren't wrong about all the bedrooms looking the same.  

John/Marlena's bedroom is the only bedroom set that looked significantly different from the boxy rooms, but I haven't seen that room since their wedding in 2018? 19?

Ciara/Ben live in one room, so I hope they are planning to upgrade for the devil baby

They showed Marlena’s bedroom when she was levitating again and wearing the sunglasses in the house.

1 minute ago, AlexElizabeth said:

I don't even watch Y&R and I know that's bad casting.

Remember when we were actually rid of Galen for a hot minute? And then he came back. Sigh... 

it’s still nuts to me we were totally rid of Rafe and they just up and brought him back.

Having Sami fake her own kidnapping would’ve made more sense than Lucas, or at least Lucas and Sami being in on it together. 

Having Kate kidnap Chloe and Sami so her sons could forget about them would have made more sense.

Ron always does this - reveals a 'good' character to be some sort of sinister nut or pious hypocrite, and thinks that balances scales with the audience.

9 minutes ago, Vee said:

Ron always does this - reveals a 'good' character to be some sort of sinister nut or pious hypocrite, and thinks that balances scales with the audience.

Agree.  Many writers like to throw these kinds of curveballs at us, don't they?  Even if Lucas being Sami's abductor is supposed to be a Twist You Never Saw Coming, we should be able to go back, look at what led us to that revelation, and see how it was all logical and inevitable.  But I don't see that here.  I just see another sorry-ass HW tryna surprise the audience without giving logic a second thought.

God, I hate these damn shows.

And the Chloe/Brady/Philip mess should end with Philip dead (or 'dead'), Chloe unable to remember what happened, Brady taking the rap, and Kate being revealed as the surprise murderer (or 'murderer,' since it's very possible either Victor or Vivian, or Victor AND Vivian, could sneak Philip off somewhere to heal from his wounds and get psychological help).

2 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Remember when we were actually rid of Galen for a hot minute? And then he came back.

Did his fans send Ken Corday a new set of golf clubs or something?

Edited December 22, 20213 yr by Khan