On 7/15/2020 at 2:30 PM, Dylan said:

I still prefer stafford, Gina was amazing but they wrote her doing things phyllis would never.

Now they got MS stuck in hotel wars with Abby...

I agree

 

FYI, Phyllis being a "murderer," like Kay and a few others on screen today, doesn't mean years later one cant say there are things Kay, Phyllis, Michael, etc., wouldn't do at this juncture.  

Edited July 16, 20205 yr by rlj

5 hours ago, titan1978 said:

About Stafford- I agree with @Vee.

 

In their prime and for the most part- people like Tristan Rogers, Tony Geary, Jane Elliot, Nancy Grahn (and many others)often interpreted the material instead of saying it word for word, but did so from a place of character and brought their scene partners along for the ride.  Stafford often eats everyone else alive- and it seems selfish.  Her tics distract from others and her own performance.

 

This is a nicer way of saying what I was going to say. 

15 hours ago, titan1978 said:

About Stafford- I agree with @Vee.

 

In their prime and for the most part- people like Tristan Rogers, Tony Geary, Jane Elliot, Nancy Grahn (and many others)often interpreted the material instead of saying it word for word, but did so from a place of character and brought their scene partners along for the ride.  Stafford often eats everyone else alive- and it seems selfish.  Her tics distract from others and her own performance.

 

I have been thinking often of the story Victoria Rowell tells about why she fell out with MS. That scene where Stafford did a spittake on her with a glass of water without warning her and getting her OK first.
When I first heard her tell the story many eons ago, conditioned that I was to consider VR "difficult", I thought "Doesn't seem so bad. VR sounds like she overreacted".
But thinking back on it now, first with the benefit of understanding more my underlying racial biases for one, and knowing more about the behind-the-scenes for two, I can now totally see how that anecdote sums up MS.
She can't let the scene be the scene: she has to ad-lib, make it more at the risk of making it too much, draw attention to herself at the risk of disrespecting her costars. It is about her and not about her character or the story. She plays her scenes like it is a wrestling match with the other actors for who is going to "win" the scene rather than a partnership to elevate the material.
That's why I liked GT better. MS is Phyllis, granted, but Phyllis was more interesting played by an actress who acts with her costars rather than at them. I dread thinking what the Jack-lookalike-rape story would have been like if MS had played it.

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by FrenchBug82

Here we go, MS is this, MS is that, LOL

 

Not sure bringing up the spittake that went wrong with VR is a good thang given VRs cruel treatment of a young CK

 

A lot here despise MS on a personal level and are IMHO projecting that onto her co stars, I'm guilty of that at times.  Perhaps MS learned from the spittaje incident 15 years ago, she's a Mom now.  We have no proof she's acting at her Co stars and not with them!

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by rlj

6 hours ago, rlj said:

Here we go, MS is this, MS is that, LOL

 

Not sure bringing up the spittake that went wrong with VR is a good thang given VRs cruel treatment of a young CK

 

What cruel treatment?

2 minutes ago, Darn said:

 

What cruel treatment?

Bullying her

1 minute ago, Soap-princess said:

Bullying her

 

That was the implication of "cruel treatment", yes. What did she do exactly?

6 hours ago, rlj said:

We have no proof she's acting at her Co stars and not with them!

 

It's called 'watching her for the last six years'. More for other people.

22 minutes ago, Soap-princess said:

Bullying her

Preferring a different actress in the role isn’t bullying. 

Don't feed the latest iteration.

9 minutes ago, Chris B said:

Preferring a different actress in the role isn’t bullying. 

VR has been quite cordial to CK in recent years and they of course did a few press things together last year after KSJ’s death. Whatever it was doesn’t seem to bother either of them anymore.

And of course this poster would have an issue with the general consensus on this board regarding Stafford and her lack of talent and charisma for the past decade or more...
 

 

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by BetterForgotten

16 minutes ago, Chris B said:

Preferring a different actress in the role isn’t bullying. 

It was b4 and after DS 

 

And yes its nice the Bully is cordial to her victim NOW

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by rlj

20 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

It's called 'watching her for the last six years'. More for other people.

Right?  Do these people not have eyes?

27 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

It's called 'watching her for the last six years'. More for other people.

That doesn't mean her Co stars aren't aware of what she's gonna do, there's rehearsal, going over lines together, there's s Director and Producers, etc on set  lol

1 minute ago, rlj said:

That doesn't mean her Co stars aren't aware of what she's gonna do, there's rehearsal, going over lines together, there's s Director and Producers, etc on set  lol

 

That wasn't the point of my post about Stafford or her habits days ago.