2 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Sorry never could stand Eileen's Ashley and BE's WAS NOT the first Ashley I saw so stop lol

 

Hmmm, then you fall into the second category as I described! So, you stop! LOL

Edited May 6, 20205 yr by YRBB

1 minute ago, YRBB said:

 

Exactly. There's only a couple of reasons why one would prefer BE: She was their first Ashley, therefore understandably one becomes attached to her, or they can't resist BE's total sweetness and charisma which was passed on to the character. 

 

But it's not just about what Davidson brought to the role. Ashley as she should be was very idiosyncratic, stubborn, weird, difficult. Those who didn't appreciate that will certainly fall for the typical sweet heroine that BE was. Sadly, that's not really Ashley. And I say all this even though I LOVE Brenda. Let's prefer who we prefer but put some RESPECK on Davidson's name!

 

Shari Shattuck for life!

 

In all seriousness, I think that ED is the definitive Ashley. I think she is the only actress who has been able to fully flesh out Ashley in all her complexity. BE's Ashley was like a different character. She was a sweet heroine, and lacked the edge that ED brings to the role. It's the same issue with SH as Kristen on DOOL. Actresses who take over ED's roles are only able to play one note of her characters.

 

1 minute ago, Alan said:

 

Shari Shattuck for life!

 

In all seriousness, I think that ED is the definitive Ashley. I think she is the only actress who has been able to fully flesh out Ashley in all her complexity. BE's Ashley was like a different character. She was a sweet heroine, and lacked the edge that ED brings to the role. 

 

LOL!

 

Yep. BE might as well have been a different character. Again, it goes back to not liking Ashley and then she becomes a sweet heroine. So it makes sense.

13 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

I had forgotten Cricket and Scott are siblings

 

You should watch the 1989 playlist I’ve been watching lately. 1989 seemed to be all about Cricket and her new found family (including ex-fiance Scott, as well as her long long father and her previously estranged mother).  

Just now, OzFrog said:

 

You should watch the 1989 playlist I’ve been watching lately. 1989 seemed to be all about Cricket and her new found family (including ex-fiance Scott, as well as her long long father and her previously estranged mother).  

 

Thank God that long-lost father got lost again. *Shudders*

I loved Nikki stripping! I miss soaps going out of their way to be outrageous. And then you’d be on the phone for 45 minutes with your mom or your girl friend, “Did you see Y&R today?! I couldn’t believe Nikki stripped!”

 

I miss the 90s y’all. 

Poor Peter Barton so hot and sexy but such a mediocre actor.

I wonder if Nikki getting drunk and making a fool of herself was Bill Bell's way of planting the seed for Nikki's substance abuse that started later that year.

Edited May 6, 20205 yr by kalbir

1 minute ago, YRBB said:

 

Thank God that long-lost father got lost again. *Shudders*

 

Oh come now, John O’Hurley wasn’t that bad in the role (although I do find it funny that he was supposed to play Scott’s father, and yet was only 2 years older than Peter Barton in real life 🤪).

3 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

You should watch the 1989 playlist I’ve been watching lately. 1989 seemed to be all about Cricket and her new found family (including ex-fiance Scott, as well as her long long father and her previously estranged mother).  

WJB couldn't make her stick so she got an Insta family. I never bought her and Scott being siblings.

I wonder what would’ve happened if Victor married Cassandra in 1990 instead of Ashley? I imagine her relationship with a teenage Victoria would have ever been more volatile. 

12 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

Hmmm, then you fall into the second category as I described! So, you stop! LOL

😝😝😝

27 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Peter Barton is the blandest bland who ever blanded.

 

He was so pretty though.

 

Ultimately, it worked out fine. Lauren and Sheila needed an excuse to feud. He was there for that purpose. Also, "poor" Barton: How can you shine next to Brown and Bergman, especially at the height of their powers? Impossible!

 

52 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Cricket wasn't eating the show as much by 1990 as she did in the late 1980s.

 

There was definitely improvement when Bell toned it down a little (a little - I mean, Cricket still appears in an episode to have sex with Danny even when you don't need her lol) and, most importantly, when Lauralee started improving as an actress (thanks to the date rape story). I'll always give her credit for that: Mediocre as she is, she worked on the craft and improved. It also helped that Danny and Cricket were genuinely nice and sweet.

Theres also those of us who just dont like ED in the role, nothing to do with anyone else lol

4 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

Oh come now, John O’Hurley wasn’t that bad in the role (although I do find it funny that he was supposed to play Scott’s father, and yet was only 2 years older than Peter Barton in real life 🤪).

 

Depends what you mean by "not bad". Was he a decent actor? Sure. Was he creepy? Oh God YES. And when he started pawing Nikki? Ew.

 

I had no idea there was only a 2 year difference. He seemed like a cryptkeeper compared to Barton lmao.