1 hour ago, dio said:

behind the scenes gossip  aside, hopefully her return will wake SC, JM, and MST up because they've been phoning it in for years. And if JV is still on the show when she returns I wonder how long until they screw? 😂 Is that why they're bringing Adam back, to resurrect Adam/Sharon? 🤣

 

"the much more talented actress who succeeded her" 

 

so messy. 🤣

 

SC, JM, and MST have NOT been phoning it in for years. That is just not true, and I hate it when fans throw that phrase around and hit almost everyone in the cast with it. 

 

You our may not like their acting styles, but they’re always prepared and they are always invested.

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

 

SC, JM, and MST have NOT been phoning it in for years. That is just not true, and I hate it when fans throw that phrase around and hit almost everyone in the cast with it. 

 

You our may not like their acting styles, but they’re always prepared and they are always invested.

 

they most certainly have. SC and MTS in particular look like they're drugged up in scenes. And JM just looks bored af. 

 

you may like what they've been putting out, but it's still trash. Sorry. 

7 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

It's one thing to say what story/pairing you prefer, and it's another thing to unprofessionally go on set and try to devalue your scene-partner because you prefer another pairing. PB specifically called MS out for not being able to keep her character separate from herself like any professional actor would do. As an actor, you need to go to set and do your damn job - MS had trouble with this and it showed when the material was not what she wanted.

 

The show should not have to cater to this type of behavior, and luckily JFP and AM didn't the last time, lol. 

 

+1.

Unfortunately, over the years, Y&R became one big lobbying fair where actors often took to social media, to gin up fanbases to rally to their causes (I'm looking at you Laners) to influence pairings and storylines and it was to the show's detriment because it warped story.

One would hope that the HW and execs don't repeat the same mistake twice, three times (or however many times they've done it) but I just don't know if anyone BTS is smart enough, or has the backbone to lay down the law with the talent and say something like "Here's what we're not gonna do, we're not going to write storyline to suit your whims and wishes, so by all means, encourage the fans to tune in and watch but don't use them to try to change storytelling to suit your desires...you're a professional, you were hired to perform the script...make it work!"

Bill Bell Sr. had the confidence in his ability to tell stories, so he wasn't afraid to tell the actors what was what.   I don't think these generic HWs have the confidence to do that, but I guess we'll see.  Y&R has been messy BTS for the past decade and like I said, old habits die hard.

Well this is shocking news. Not really a fan of MS and thought GT did a great job owning the role and even making Phyllis likable at times, especially with the friendship with Hillary. I'll miss her.

GT has been warmly embraced for the most part - I don't think the show expected this type of reaction given that Stafford originated the role. that alone showed that GT was successful in the role. 

If u r referring to twitter, go back a few weeks and the cries for GT to kick rocks, tired of the Phyllis show was loud and lord knows what they put on the survey RME at the faux anger 

 

St John, Miller, Sherwood, RKK, etc, were all successful recasts, viewers will move on, be careful what you wish for

20 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

GT has been warmly embraced for the most part - I don't think the show expected this type of reaction given that Stafford originated the role. that alone showed that GT was successful in the role. 

 

Even the old fossils on Facebook do not seem very thrilled with this news and that is pretty shocking to me since the super old viewers seem the most reluctant to recasts and stuff but there isn't some big sense of elation or joy there either. 

 

Its quite odd. Also what a weird position for the cast, though some have been more vocal than I was expecting (Camryn, Eileen, EB)

Phyllis has always been one of those characters that is deeply polarizing - people who both love and hate the character are very vocal. 

 

GT wasn't a flop recast that the show tried to make happen over and over again (like say Tammin Sursok as Colleen). She was able to develop a following and when the material allowed (which is not often for any character on this show anymore), she was able to bring new shades to the character. So many have said that GT has made them like Phyllis for the first time, and I think a lot of that had to do with what GT brought to the role. 

GT made Phyllis her own, like RKK made Bo his own, St John made Todd his own.  She made Phyllis stronger and fierce, loved her with JT and JM  But CBS  sought after Stafford, wonder if JM tipped CBS that his Besties contract neg were tanking  

Edited April 1, 20196 yr by rlj

Oh, there is definitely NOT a loud echo of cheers for this homecoming. I'm surprised. I do agree that it'll blow over. In 6 months, GT will be forgotten about. It'll be fine. 

 

But lord, please don't let the show force Phyllis into every story and pair her with every man. I can't go back to that. It was bad when MY was doing it with GT too. 

5 minutes ago, rlj said:

GT made Phyllis her own, like RKK made Bo his own, St John made Todd his own.  She made Phyllis stronger and fierce, loved her with JT and JM  But CBS  sought after Stafford, wonder if JM tipped CBS that his Besties contract neg were tanking  

I think it was more like GH wasn't backing down from contract negotiations, and Stafford had her management put feelers into the market for leverage (which Y&R took). So, in the end, Stafford had to eat crow and come back to Y&R after vowing she never would, because GH was not going to give into whatever demands her team was requesting. 

4 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think it was more like GH wasn't backing down from contract negotiations, and Stafford had her management put feelers into the market for leverage (which Y&R took). So, in the end, Stafford had to eat crow and come back to Y&R after vowing she never would, because GH was not going to give into whatever demands her team was requesting. 

 

Pretty much. It was about time GH smartened up. She had played Nina for like 5 or 6 years and the show had nothing to show for it. No big ratings grabbing story or memorable moment, no Emmys or even noms, no big popular pairing so

I know myself and the Phyllis fans I interact with on FB and Twitter  were not hoping or wishing MS to return, aas very happy with GT, all will be ok by summer 😎

10 minutes ago, Vizion said:

 

Pretty much. It was about time GH smartened up. She had played Nina for like 5 or 6 years and the show had nothing to show for it. No big ratings grabbing story or memorable moment, no Emmys or even noms, no big popular pairing so

Other than the steady paycheck, I think even Stafford had to realize what a bust she was on GH.  Eating crow and going back to Y&R was probably not what she wanted, but her only option in the end.