I love the Abbott’s and the scenes with Dina essentially recreating the goodbye she had with John all those years ago was so poignant and tragic all the same. I really have to commend all of the actors in this story, even with some of the outrageousness they’ve really sold the hell out of it.

 

Thank you writers for continuing to make Tessa unlikable. Hopefully this leads to an exit for the character soon.

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

JT and Phyllis fling as in them cheating on their respective partners? 

 

Sort-of. It would've happened before JT reunited with Victoria, so technically only Phyllis would be cheater. Just a secret one-nighter to actually make stakes of Philly/JToria mean something. I just really want GT out of this juvenile rom-com. 

1 hour ago, edgeofnik said:

 

Sort-of. It would've happened before JT reunited with Victoria, so technically only Phyllis would be cheater. Just a secret one-nighter to actually make stakes of Philly/JToria mean something. I just really want GT out of this juvenile rom-com. 

 

I'm going to have to say no to this one.  Phyllis just had an affair story and still with the affair partner. That'd be overkill. 

 

While I'm not overly fond of that foursome, I think there is stakes enough if they play on the history. 

 

Phyllis definitely needs more to do. The Philly relationship is a big ball of nothing. How did a couple whose union should have caused a big shake up to canvas devolve into Desi and Lucy? And Billy as the devil may care Playboy isn't as endearing as Mal Young thinks. 

Edited January 23, 20187 yr by ajsp35801

17 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I'm going to have to say no to this one.  Phyllis just had an affair story and still with the affair partner. That'd be overkill. 

 

While I'm not overly fond of that foursome, I think there is stakes enough if they play on the history. 

 

Phyllis definitely needs more to do. The Philly relationship is a big ball of nothing. How did a couple whose union should have caused a big shake up to canvas devolve into Desi and Lucy? And Billy as the devil may care Playboy isn't as endearing as Mal Young thinks. 

As soon as they decided to make Philly an actual relationship, they killed all story for Phyllis essentially especially once Jack got over hating her. I pretty much only look forward to Phyllis having scenes with Hillary as I love that friendship. It didn't make sense when it started but the two actresses have really made it work and the writers have resisted turning them into unnecessary rivals. I do think if MS was still in the role though,  the relationship wouldn't work AT ALL.

Edited January 23, 20187 yr by Antoyne

20 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I'm going to have to say no to this one.  Phyllis just had an affair story and still with the affair partner. That'd be overkill. 

 

While I'm not overly fond of that foursome, I think there is stakes enough if they play on the history. 

 

Phyllis definitely needs more to do. The Philly relationship is a big ball of nothing. How did a couple whose union should have caused a big shake up to canvas devolve into Desi and Lucy? And Billy as the devil may care Playboy isn't as endearing as Mal Young thinks. 

 

Phyllis is not needed at this time.  DeSORASING the character was a mistake and now she just sexes up Billy, who is also not needed.  Send one on a long business trip and the other decides to go with.  Only one needs to return!  

1 minute ago, ChitHappens said:

 

Phyllis is not needed at this time.  DeSORASING the character was a mistake and now she just sexes up Billy, who is also not needed.  Send one on a long business trip and the other decides to go with.  Only one needs to return!  

I agree with you. She could leave town and I wouldn't miss her.

41 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

As soon as they decided to make Philly an actual relationship, they killed all story for Phyllis essentially especially once Jack got over hating her. I pretty much only look forward to Phyllis having scenes with Hillary as I love that friendship. It didn't make sense when it started but the two actresses have really made it work and the writers have resisted turning them into unnecessary rivals. I do think if MS was still in the role though,  the relationship wouldn't work AT ALL.

 

Jack should have never gotten over hating it. Neither should other abbots. That's why they struggle story wise IMO. They are, essentially, ignoring the only story available and the only reason to pursue Philly as a couple. Abbot family drama. 

 

Also love the Hilary and Phyllis friendship.  It's refreshing that it's a real friendship. Unlike that frenemy mess that doesn't work that they keep trying to pass off with hilary and Mariah. 

39 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

 

Phyllis is not needed at this time.  DeSORASING the character was a mistake and now she just sexes up Billy, who is also not needed.  Send one on a long business trip and the other decides to go with.  Only one needs to return!  

 

Phyllis was needed for Jack but then  they cast another woman that filled the love interest void: Dina.   Jack became the ultimate momma's boy last year. I didn't hate it. Didn't miss him and Phyllis together. 

I've watched Mon-Thurs of last week and probably my least enjoyable week. I do like that Cane/Lily are having mature conversations as they both were unfaithful, however, this is not a pairing I care for. I'm hoping this week is better.

7 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Jack should have never gotten over hating it. Neither should other abbots. That's why they struggle story wise IMO. They are, essentially, ignoring the only story available and the only reason to pursue Philly as a couple. Abbot family drama. 

 

Also love the Hilary and Phyllis friendship.  It's refreshing that it's a real friendship. Unlike that frenemy mess that doesn't work that they keep trying to pass off with hilary and Mariah. 

 

Phyllis was needed for Jack but then  they cast another woman that filled the love interest void: Dina.   Jack became the ultimate momma's boy last year. I didn't hate it. Didn't miss him and Phyllis together. 

Like I said, it's the only thing I watch for at this point when it comes to Phyllis. I've enjoyed what GT has brought to the role but it's obvious MY has no clue what to do with her, though I did like them dropping her into the Abbott CEO battle briefly.

13 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Like I said, it's the only thing I watch for at this point when it comes to Phyllis. I've enjoyed what GT has brought to the role but it's obvious MY has no clue what to do with her, though I did like them dropping her into the Abbott CEO battle briefly.

 

+1

 

Mal doesn't know what to do with alot of folks. 

Phyllis has nothing to do because Y&R refuses to let the character age.

 

Trying to make her a contemporary of Victoria/JT/Billy/Hilary has never worked.

 

If any character currently on the canvas should be in her position it should be Chelsea.

38 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Phyllis has nothing to do because Y&R refuses to let the character age.

 

Trying to make her a contemporary of Victoria/JT/Billy/Hilary has never worked.

 

If any character currently on the canvas should be in her position it should be Chelsea.

 

Victoria is not a contemporary of JT/Billy/Hilary herself. Lol

 

 

I agree with people who wouldn't miss Phyllis and/or Billy is they left tomorrow.

JMO but I think the problem is that neither character is anchored to anything but each other.  Both wander around their respective companies, sort of doing "stuff" that is not specific.  What is Billy really doing for Chancellor?  Do we even know his official title?

Phyllis was on that one Fenmore's Dressing Room app but do we know what she's doing now? She tried to sabotage Brash and Sassy like it was her job but what has she done since then?  Summer and Daniel are not around, so all she has is scenes trying to entice Billy with food or negligées.  What else is there?  It's gotten old fast.

 

 

21 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Victoria is not a contemporary of JT/Billy/Hilary herself. Lol

 

That's a good question though.  Who are Victoria's actual contemporaries?

 

Ryan and Nina were always older.  Billy, JT, Mac and Colleen were always younger.

 

I'm trying to think of someone but no one comes to mind. I guess Nick and Sharon would come closest?

45 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Victoria is not a contemporary of JT/Billy/Hilary herself. Lol

 

 

 

She is now that the JT/Billy set has been SORASED over the years. Ever since Y&R recast Billy with Billy Miller, Mackenzie with Rachel Kimsey/Clementine Ford and kept Victoria & JT paired at the hip they've all essentially been in the same peer group.

27 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Who are Victoria's actual contemporaries?

 

Except for Brandon Victoria's never really had contemporaries.

 

Tricia arguably came the closest but Tricia herself was between Victoria & Nick age-wise.

Edited January 23, 20187 yr by DeeeDee

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I'm going to have to say no to this one.  Phyllis just had an affair story and still with the affair partner. That'd be overkill. 

 

While I'm not overly fond of that foursome, I think there is stakes enough if they play on the history. 

 

Phyllis definitely needs more to do. The Philly relationship is a big ball of nothing. How did a couple whose union should have caused a big shake up to canvas devolve into Desi and Lucy? And Billy as the devil may care Playboy isn't as endearing as Mal Young thinks. 

 

Phyllis has always been written to have affairs and always scheme as well.  The desorasing hasn't helped at all, it just made it worse.

 

I find her to be the juvenile and she always has been. Never satisfied unless her itches to cheat are scratched especially when she breaks up family.

 

4 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

 

Phyllis is not needed at this time.  DeSORASING the character was a mistake and now she just sexes up Billy, who is also not needed.  Send one on a long business trip and the other decides to go with.  Only one needs to return!  

+1

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I agree with you. She could leave town and I wouldn't miss her.

+1

Edited January 23, 20187 yr by YRestlessfan