1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

I just hate how they've removed anything dark about the series. A subtle dark-tinting of the clip would bring much more richness back into the scene

That's an interesting point that I hadn't appreciated before you mentioned it. 

Seeing the Ewing Oil offices raised a question - Do we ever see Jock going into the office of Ewing Oil?  I wonder if JR took over Jock's office?  Or, if they kept one for him down the hall?  I was also thinking about what Sly (or whomever was the receptionist at the time)'s relationship was like with Jock.  I just have no memory of Jock on that set.

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5 hours ago, SoapDope said:

Dallas died when Victoria left the show. Those last years when most of the originals were gone was pure torture. 

Dallas went off the rails in the aftermath of Pamela disappearance and was effectively over with Sue Ellen departure. 1987/88 to me feels like the natural end point of the show. The final three seasons were not needed and I feel they only happened because CBS was such a mess in primetime back then.

 

 

11 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

What a difference! SD vs HD. The scenes are part of two episodes. Pam confronting JR happens at the beginning of the next episode. 

 

Definitely. I'm glad we have it

4 hours ago, j swift said:

Do we ever see Jock going into the office of Ewing Oil? 

Several times. I can't post the clips, but off the top of my head, there was when Pam had it out with J.R. and Jock over the reveal that Cliff's old girlfriend died from a botched abortion, Miss Ellie signing the papers to agree to allow drilling on Southfork, Sue Ellen signing the papers to initiate the countersuit against Cliff when he sued while still believing he was John Ross' father, in the aftermath of the news about the Asian oil wells being worthless to their new owners (when Jordan Lee lets them know Seth Stone killed himself) and one of several moments when Leslie Stewart realizes that J.R.'s really small short-sighted in terms of being a p.r. client.

4 hours ago, j swift said:

I wonder if JR took over Jock's office?  Or, if they kept one for him down the hall? 

I'm goin to assume that J.R.'s office was the one belonging to Jock when he was president. Jock did resume some responsibilities in 1979-80, after the J.R. mortaged Southfork and they nearly lost the joint fiasco, but it was temporary until the more or less permanent solution of J.R. vs. Bobby at work.

4 hours ago, j swift said:

I was also thinking about what Sly (or whomever was the receptionist at the time)'s relationship was like with Jock.

The only Ewing Oil secretary we ever saw Jock have a relationship with was Julie Grey (Tina Louise). "Julie's Return" involves Jock and Julie's non-physical affair. Sly (Deborah Rennard) joined the cast after Jim Davis' death.

 

On 4/15/2023 at 5:09 PM, Soapsuds said:

Scenes that never aired in season 10.

 

I remember these when I was a kid.  Weren't these in the Enquirer?  It was a fake out for folks trying to spoil how Bobby comes back?

50 minutes ago, mphs19952003 said:

I remember these when I was a kid.  Weren't these in the Enquirer?  It was a fake out for folks trying to spoil how Bobby comes back?

Yes it was in the Enquirer. I kind of wish they'd gone with those fake pics/spoilers instead of it being a dream.

Do we think these pictures of Bobby were created by The Enquirer (who had a history of doctored photos) or CBS/Lorimar?

 

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On 8/21/2023 at 3:27 AM, j swift said:

Do we think these pictures of Bobby were created by The Enquirer (who had a history of doctored photos) or CBS/Lorimar?

I've always heard several scenarios / pictures were leaked to the press by Lorimar as to not spoil the "dream" resolution (it also looks like Patrick in the profile picture, though the face has obviously been photoshopped); one of those scenarios was that Bobby was going to be a lookalike imposter, which I assume these pictures were meant to convey. 

My understanding is though that these scenes were never shot and were just photoshoots (because why waste time to rehearse and shoot a scene they knew weren't ever going to be used).

There's been talk of other pictures / photoshoots being leaked to the press, but I assume those might be a case of chinese whispers. Considering how big Dallas still was at the time and what a furore Bobby's return created in the press, I don't think those wouldn't have been found by now.

On 5/22/2023 at 11:27 AM, Khan said:

I think the 2012 series was a good idea, but I agree with David Jacobs that they relied too much on the original cast members, who should have made limited or recurring appearances, and that the younger generation should have taken over more.  I think the fact that they didn't was a sign that TPTB weren't too sure about the younger generation carrying the show on their own.

I also agree with DJ that John Ross should have been more like Bobby and Christopher should have been more like J.R.  If nothing else, "flipping the script" like that would've given Patrick Duffy and Larry Hagman more challenging stuff to play with, rather than a retread of familiar dynamics.

A John Ross & Christopher swap would have been amazing.

I wish they had consulted with David Jacobs. They actually offered him a consultant position (which likely would have been in name only) in return for giving up his rights to be credited as the series’ creator on the revival. He refused. Good for him.

I actually wish they had gotten Jacobs to assume the showrunner position after the dream season, rather than luring back Leonard Katzman. Katzman had guided the show to great heights, but he was out of gas.

Rest in peace to David Jacobs.

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