Members DRW50 Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 I said years back that Sonny is the typical "Cartini" leading man. He ticks all their boxes, aside from looks, as he's generally busted. I don't think there's any story left for Ava. They burned through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 I don't think Ron is that interested in Sonny or the mob overall. But they know where their bread is buttered and how much I suspect the network will allow. They had to pull back a lot after their first year to keep the mob in first position on the show. Playing with Sonny in this way - making him do unspeakable things and then not even bothering to walk it back, just to see how much the audience can take - also suits Ron's lazy style of shock beat writing with big payoffs and nothing else these days. I think Ava can go on for a long time with smart writing. Worse criminals than her wriggle out of their comeuppance for years on soaps. But this team is not very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's not so much the bad things Ava did as the range of the character. Pining over this man and that man, depending on the day of the week. The confusion over whether we were supposed to cry for her or hate her or love to hate her. The non-starter relationship with Kukla. It all feels very tired. You'd think she had been on the show for a decade. I tend to wonder how much the network really cares about Sonny or the mob at this point. Frons did, but Frons is gone. Most of Sonny's stories are stories that Frodd would have been given for eternity on OLTL. It's easy to write for Sonny because you can have him do anything, and the Jamey Giddens brigade will lead the charge for his hero prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 I agree with Vee's post as well, but I can't find it. Ava was not meant for this crap onscreen now. Trying to whitewash and redeem her. For what? White her as a good villain damn it. It not, get her off this damn show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 I think MB and Sonny is/are one of the few recognizable longtime leads which most of the ABC Daytime people in charge might still recognize for branding and PR purposes - along with TG, and possibly Genie Francis. Even people who haven't watched GH in decades can remember Luke and Laura or Sonny and Brenda and, unfortunately, Jason. It's easy for someone with a passing knowledge of the show's focus groups or past or whatever to come in and say, as it was rumored they did, 'this show is kind of missing that big thing the fans loved, right? Sonny and the mob? Do more of that.' I don't think Ron has ever had a passion for mob stories except on his own terms, where it showcases people or plot beats he's invested in. He can barely be bothered to give any of those proceedings even a hint of depth, it's all about the next plot point. Sonny goes directly to jail after being found out, along with Julian and Ava; the trials take either a day or two or don't appear onscreen at all. Michael immediately gets custody of the newborn Avery after approximately two or three days in court. Duke and Shawn and the running of the mob is scarcely seen. His focus is the family conflict - the problem is that the family conflict is extremely shallowly-written. If he cared, he would have known Carly would never have backed Sonny against Michael, and Alexis, for all her hypocritical bullshit about Sonny and Julian, also wouldn't be spending hours lecturing Michael on 'getting revenge'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 moRon doesn't care about anything but his pets and penning this embarrassing crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reallyhateskateonlost Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Dr. O should have walked in on Brad and Lucas playing doctor. Baby AJ doesn't like Michael because she's always crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Uh some babies do just cry no matter who's holding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Michael's small victories against Sonny are currently the only thing worth watching. As others have stated though, this is NOT Carly. She would never in a thousand years pick ANYONE over her first-born. As for Morgan...there are no words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponds Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 I think today was my final day of watching. There is NOTHING worthwhile about this show. I'll keep reading the recaps and what people here have to say about it, but it's not worth my time at the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Oh the clever, "soapy goodness" writing - that was the same shitty story they used for AJ when Michael was a baby. I don't think he really cares about the mob, but showing men behave in a variety of disgusting ways as they make sad faces and the town cries for them - that's his forte. And that's Sonny. It's always been Sonny. You know one thing that always gets me is how the few people I know IRL who watch GH all either like Sonny, or don't care about him, but hate Michael and hate that he wants the baby. Sometimes when I'm on here, or one or two other boards, I forget just what a vacuum we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Sonny threatening Michael was laughable. Im glad Michael wasnt intimidated. I wasnt for what Michael is doing but he won me over in the last 2 episodes Rocco is huge. When he get so big? Glad to see Felicia finally appear onscreen again LOL at Olivia asking if she should be embarrassed that her grandson will be older than her baby The Shadybrooke nonsense is such a waste of time Tracy being nice seems so out of character for her. She loves Avery, likes that she's called AJ and is welcoming of her? Tracy hates most Quartermaines that arent her children, especially interlopers with no blood relation The Corinthos family bonding....that whole family is trash None of that has translated into "writing". The baby just happens to be fussy, no matter who holds her. They arent writing it that people are commenting that she cant stand to be around Michael lol..she already has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 HUH? Carly has ALWAYS chosen Sonny over her kids, so this is Carly completely in character. Both Sonny and Carly would throw their kids under the bus for each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted March 10, 2015 Members Share Posted March 10, 2015 Michael has always been Carly's reason for EVERYTHING and she'd never side with anyone over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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