I'd love it if Kay's REAL will was found (perhaps in one of the mansion's other chandeliers) leaving her estate to Brock and Jill only, causing Hillary to drop Devon like a hot potato. Devon doesn't take it well and tells Neil and Lily what's been happening, major you-know-what storm insues.

Oh yes, let's take everything from Devon. He should get no money nor a romantic pairing. *sarcastic side eye*. This Devon resentment is real. Lol.

Edited September 28, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

I think Sage should be Crickets sister. Crickets mother back in the day had a secret daughter and she's back in town. Sullivan would work well against bell. A Christine-Paul-Sage triangle

When Philip was found alive (ugh), did Nina have to return her money? Wasn't that a huge story for Nina after he died?

I would kill to have the show invest in Nina, and transition the Kay/Jill feud to Nina/Jill.

I don't really know much about this Pratt guy, but now that you mentioned it, I do wonder what his sensibilities are towards longtime/older characters like Jill. I guess we'll soon find out.

A decent writer could have sussed out some pretty good storylines for Nina, and Tracy, for that matter but there doesn't seem to be any desire to do so.

Edited September 28, 201411 yr by DramatistDreamer

It is when your outrage is simply because he got the money instead of the writers STILL not utilizing him with the rest of his birth family & again one of the main reasons Katherine specified Devon to receive much of her money was that he was cheated of deeper relationship with her because of circumstances not of his own doing.

I agree with you that it's criminal that Devon isn't allowed his rightful place as a Chancellor but whining that he got his grandmother's money as a consolation prize instead of a deeper relationship with her makes you look really petty & though Katherine mended fences with her mortal enemy Jill in the past 15 years she wouldn't have left Jill money because Jill is financially independent & none of Katherine's other family members are hurting for money so acting like they're homeless & destitute because they didn't get Kay's money (especially when said characters AREN'T ON THE SHOW) means you equate Katherine's money with Katherine's love which shows you had no understanding of Katherine at all.

And as ajsp said it's funny how Devon is the only one attacked for not being worthy of Katherine's money when Abby who has barely been connected to The Newmans over the years has rarely (if ever) been criticized for TAKING much of Victor's billions nor has she been expected to "pay it forward" or be written as more of a Newman in order to justify her unearned windfall. Nor is anyone upset that MURPHY received more in the way of money than Katherine's other blood relatives (other than Devon).

But you & your buddies feel free to keep acting like there was nothing racist about your assertions. It's endlessly amusing watching you all change the goalposts every time your previous arguments are thoroughly debunked.

So Katherine doesn't equate money with love but left Devon more money because he was cheated out of a deeper relationship with her? That sounds like equating money with love. I know Katherine, and money and power were important to her. She used her money and power to help, and sometimes manipulate, those she loved, and hurt those she hated. Kay wouldn't want to hurt Brock, Chance. Phillip2 Mac, and her never mentioned great granddaughter Dylan (another HUGE flaw).

-Why should I care about Devon's birth family? Are you talking about Tucker, Yolanda/Harmony and Judge Arthur Hendricks? I follow the Chancellor clan as they have developed on-screen since the start of the show, if he's not involved with Jill, Kay, Brock etc. I don't care. It's the same reason I didn't care about Tucker. Tucker was blood related but not story-related to the rest of them. Tucker was really never part of the Chancellor clan; he didn't know any them, he spent most of his time with others (Ashley, Jack, Diane,Sophia, Harmony, and then Genevieve and Sharon.)

-I don't care about the Newmans and rarely comment about them unless it's something to do with the Chancellors, so I don't care about anything Abby. Why should I have to comment about her in order to comment about Devon?

- If Murphy was on the show I might be commenting on his actions and what he is doing with his money. As far as his share, yes it's too much, but spouses are often treated differently in a Will. Whereas children most often get equal shares unless there is good reason to leave someone out or leave them less. We watched years of Phillip2/Kay and Mac/Kay interactions: she wouldn't have left them less.

...............Not to mention the small fact Kay MURDERED Phillip Chancellor 2. Kay was well aware of what she did, and since we are supposed to believe she became a better person in her later years, it would have made sense to make amends to both Phillip 3 and Chance, and yes even Jill.

I don't think anything I'm saying has been debunked it's just being painted as racist. I even have "buddies" now? Seriously? Who are they? I'm not going to stop criticizing the story around the family I've followed for 40 years simply because a black character was added to it. Making Devon the wealthiest and sole representative of the Chancellors on the show isn't an asset so I don't really understand the happiness about it. He can't have his "rightful place" among the Chancellors if there aren't any. Until Tucker, having Kay's blood wasn't all that important when it came to Chancellors. Jill running Chancellor Industries, and equal shares to everyone else would have provided more story, conflict, and a continuation of the family on the show.

When Philip was found alive (ugh), did Nina have to return her money? Wasn't that a huge story for Nina after he died?

I would kill to have the show invest in Nina, and transition the Kay/Jill feud to Nina/Jill.

No. No one has returned any money from these random fake deaths.

I actually wanted Chloe and Jill to become the knew Kay and Jill. I wanted Jill to marry a young boy toy and have Chloe take him from her.

Edited September 28, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

Oh yes, let's take everything from Devon. He should get no money nor a romantic pairing. *sarcastic side eye*. This Devon resentment is real. Lol.

And you want that resentment to be because Devon is black, because that means the poster is racist, and therefore wrong, and a horrible person?

It may be all about Devon to you but it's not to me.For me it has to do with Kay and Jill and the development of the story and the people in her life for the 40 years she was on the show. I would feel the exact same way if any character was substituted for Devon.....even Cane. And Cane had a running relationship with Jill & Kay.The way the Will was done killed the family and Devon represents that on screen so I resent him. ( Not Bryton)

Who is caring about Devon having a romantic pairing? Not me. Some viewers didn't like Devon long before he was related to Kay.

No. No one has returned any money from these random fake deaths.

I actually wanted Chloe and Jill Nina to become the knew Kay and Jill. I wanted Jill to marry a young boy toy and have Chloe take him from her. Chloe to marry Chance, and have Nina disapprove of it, which adds to the already explosive Nina/Jill rivalry

Fixed, well that's what I wanted

Edited September 28, 201411 yr by cassadine1991

And you want that resentment to be because Devon is black, because that means the poster is racist, and therefore wrong, and a horrible person?

It may be all about Devon to you but it's not to me.For me it has to do with Kay and Jill and the development of the story and the people in her life for the 40 years she was on the show. I would feel the exact same way if any character was substituted for Devon.....even Cane. And Cane had a running relationship with Jill & Kay.The way the Will was done killed the family and Devon represents that on screen so I resent him. ( Not Bryton)

Who is caring about Devon having a romantic pairing? Not me. Some viewers didn't like Devon long before he was related to Kay.

I think you should go back and read my posts. I never listed any reason for the irrational hate for Devon. This is a common TV viewer reaction and their are many reasons for it. One of the most well known is the wife on Breaking Bad. Now if you want to assume that I am implying that race is the reason for Devon being the recipient over the will then all I can tell you is that a hit dog will holler.

The way the will was done did not kill the Chancellors. How could it when it had been years since any had been on the show. You said yourself that the recasting of Tucker and how he was played destroyed the intention of rebuilding them. So years after the fact, Devon getting some of Kay's estate can't be it. I would agree with you if the mansion had been full of Chancellors and their relations at the time of Kay ' s death and they were ushered offscreen because of the will. But that didn't happen. I also think that if their were other family members onscreen then the will and follow on story would have been totally different. But that wasn't the case cause TPTB and writers haven't bern interested in building them. This is why I label it irrational hate.

I care that Devon has a romantic pairing. Yes, I sure do. There are people that disliked him and there are people that liked him. Not sure what these statements are getting at.

Fixed, well that's what I wanted

I could have taken that too. Lol. But I don't see how Nina disapproving of Chance marrying chloe would further Jill and Nina. Seems to me they both would have agreed there.

Edited September 29, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

I agree with some of your points Cattykittens, but I feel like the Chancellors were screwed by bigger problems than who got Kay's money. Namely, that they never were able to give her viable heirs. Mac was a good idea, that was sabotaged by bad recasts. Tucker, I don't even know what to say there. The character never took off. Chance also failed, although I do think they should recast that role and try again. Chloe was an honorary Chancellor, but that was another character that never jelled for some reason. I suppose the writers just didn't know what to do with her.

Maybe the company should have gone to Jill, but I can see Kay not going in that direction for a lot of reasons. Maybe she loved Jill in the end, but I don't think she would have felt the need to give her the bulk of her estate or even a large portion. Not after all the years of resentment.

Adding Devon to the family always felt like a strange stretch, but Y&R has had a lot of ridiculous plot twists over the last few years, so I could have rolled with that. It might have been ok, if JC had lived a couple more years to play the story.

I agree with some of your points Cattykittens, but I feel like the Chancellors were screwed by bigger problems than who got Kay's money. Namely, that they never were able to give her viable heirs. Mac was a good idea, that was sabotaged by bad recasts. Tucker, I don't even know what to say there. The character never took off. Chance also failed, although I do think they should recast that role and try again. Chloe was an honorary Chancellor, but that was another character that never jelled for some reason. I suppose the writers just didn't know what to do with her.

Maybe the company should have gone to Jill, but I can see Kay not going in that direction for a lot of reasons. Maybe she loved Jill in the end, but I don't think she would have felt the need to give her the bulk of her estate or even a large portion. Not after all the years of resentment.

Adding Devon to the family always felt like a strange stretch, but Y&R has had a lot of ridiculous plot twists over the last few years, so I could have rolled with that. It might have been ok, if JC had lived a couple more years to play the story.

I don't even think JCs sudden death affected that story. Writers had ample opportunity to give Kay and Devon a deeper relationship but didn't play it. I think that connection was more about Tucker and giving him more connections on canvas and more people in his orbit. JMO.

So Katherine doesn't equate money with love but left Devon more money because he was cheated out of a deeper relationship with her? That sounds like equating money with love.

The difference being that Devon was the only one of her immediate relatives who wasn't independently wealthy & had an interest in business.

Had Mackenzie or Chance shown an interest in business she would've more than likely left them with an increased share of her wealth.

Kay wouldn't want to hurt Brock, Chance. Phillip2 Mac, and her never mentioned great granddaughter Dylan (another HUGE flaw).

She DIDN'T hurt them.

She left them money too. Just not enough money to your liking.

And for the record Katherine didn't leave Billy (who she considered family) anything either.

-Why should I care about Devon's birth family? Are you talking about Tucker, Yolanda/Harmony and Judge Arthur Hendricks? I follow the Chancellor clan as they have developed on-screen since the start of the show, if he's not involved with Jill, Kay, Brock etc. I don't care. It's the same reason I didn't care about Tucker. Tucker was blood related but not story-related to the rest of them. Tucker was really never part of the Chancellor clan; he didn't know any them, he spent most of his time with others (Ashley, Jack, Diane,Sophia, Harmony, and then Genevieve and Sharon.)

Devon's birth family are the Hendricks & Shepherds through his bio father, the Winters through his adopted parents & the Hamiltons through his mother

Whether Tucker spent as much time with Katherine as you'd like he was & is still a BLOOD child of Katherine & it's not Tucker's fault he didn't know his relatives any more than Devon does now (that's on the writers).

It's also not like all of those family members of Katherine's you mentioned were blood Chancellors themselves.

Jill (who hated Katherine for far longer than she loved her) & Nina (who hated Katherine almost as much as Jill for years) were Chancellors by marriage & Brock (absent from Katherine's life for LONG periods of time) & Mackenzie (as invented a relation to Katherine as Devon) are REYNOLDS.

The ONLY blood Chancellors are Phillip & Chance.

Both of whom have happily accepted their windfalls & haven't disputed Devon's inheritance.

-I don't care about the Newmans and rarely comment about them unless it's something to do with the Chancellors, so I don't care about anything Abby. Why should I have to comment about her in order to comment about Devon?

Funny how characters in similar situations on the same show are conveniently held to different standards.

When their similarities are pointed out suddenly the goal posts change. Again.

- If Murphy was on the show I might be commenting on his actions and what he is doing with his money.

Brock, Mackenzie, Chance & Phillip aren't on the show yet you seem happy enough to comment on their behalf.

So why aren't you criticizing Murphy for what he received (especially since he was married to Katherine for a relatively short time & had about as much interaction with the rest of Katherine's family save maybe Jill as Tucker & Devon)?

it would have made sense to make amends to both Phillip 3 and Chance, and yes even Jill.

Now you're just grasping at straws.

I don't think anything I'm saying has been debunked it's just being painted as racist. I even have "buddies" now? Seriously? Who are they? I'm not going to stop criticizing the story around the family I've followed for 40 years simply because a black character was added to it. Making Devon the wealthiest and sole representative of the Chancellors on the show isn't an asset so I don't really understand the happiness about it. He can't have his "rightful place" among the Chancellors if there aren't any. Until Tucker, having Kay's blood wasn't all that important when it came to Chancellors. Jill running Chancellor Industries, and equal shares to everyone else would have provided more story, conflict, and a continuation of the family on the show.

He's got the money. You mad. End of Story.

I actually wanted Chloe and Jill to become the knew Kay and Jill. I wanted Jill to marry a young boy toy and have Chloe take him from her.

What should have happened when Chloe was first introduced (instead of making her Katie) was to have her fall in love with & marry Chance causing Nina to reluctantly team with Katherine & Jill to break them up.

Edited September 28, 201411 yr by DeeeDee

I think it still could've happened even after they made Chloe Esther's daughter

It wouldn't have been as much fun because Katherine wouldn't be as mean as she would be to a non-relative.