Empire: Discussion Thread

[Errol]

At least we know why Lucious had a perm in the first episode. I presume that it had to do with that Wayward Pines TV show Howard produced and stars in whose trailer was shown at the end of Empire. Debuts on FOX in May.

[slick jones]

I'm on overload. I have to watch this s hit again! I was thinking the second hour was a dream, too Marceline! Now I have to re watch it!

[NothinButAttitude]

Why would they be dumb?

[Errol]

Exactly. Baseball would be the worst thing for Fox to program Empire around. If not November, it'll definitely go January. I expect a 15-18 episode order for next season.

[MoTheGreat]

I turn the tv too once I saw Jamal walk up in the rap battle.

[slick jones]

I just googled Wayward Pines- It's a tv summer series on Fox---Terrence is doing double tv duty!

[Errol]

Just remembered, Wayward Pines is from M. Night Shyamalan. Yeah, I'm gonna pass. He had me cackling at The Last Airbender, which included the entire theater pissed at the pronunciations of the lead character names. Sorry Terrence. Not even you and your perm can get me to watch a single project from M. Night. PASS!!!

[Nate4]

Foxs DC station had a party! They just had a segment on it and it looked fun!

Edited March 19, 2015 by Nate4

[ChitHappens]

Lucious gone get all those bitches, and I can't wait! JR has been down and out too but it never lasted long!

I'm actually salivating because ALL them bitches got stuff to hide. Rhandre/Vernon, Cookie killed someone, Anika and her crooked daddy! Lucious will reign supreme and I'm here!!!!!

[Eric83]

I'm here for Jamal and Dwight being allies against everyone next season!!!! F-ck the World Series. I'm sure Empire will have higher ratings than that anyway.

[ChitHappens]

The set up is actually kind of brilliant. The only honest one in the bunch will side with Lucious and Lucious treated him the worst. Jamal has nothing to hide. The others do. The season literally flipped.

[Vee]

I also think it's a brilliant setup. And it was genius of them not to off Anika. Gealey is too good scheming with the others.

[YRfan23]

The "name changing" with Lucious is totally a Victor Newman thing!

[DaytimeFan]

The season finale was a lot.

Lucious is pure evil, without the wicked smile of JR Ewing...he's just bad to the bone and thinks he's God.

Poor Vernon, I loved the actor playing him, such a shame that he had to die...but damn that he's the one who turned Lucious in, that's what he went to talk to Andre about. And Rhonda, pregnant, oh what a mess!

Anika and Hakeem?! The pillow?! The gifts?! There was just so much going on in the show, it could have been an entire season. I loved it and I hated it...but I can't wait to see next season.

Jamal is so unlikeable now, he turned his back on his own mother when she had his back from day one!

Cookie, this episode, was very Alexis...when she had her moment to destroy Lucious, she didn't. She took her younger man, had him, let him go, got in a great catfight, and then ended things in a gorgeous neglige in a showplace penthouse. It was exquisite.

[ReddFoxx]

The finale was written in a way that would have worked if the series lasted just one season, so I was okay with the fast movement of the some of the plot. The battle lines for next season are definitely set.

From the start, I figured that Lucious would end up having some other disease, so I was not surprised at that part.

I knew the second that Rhonda picked up that object that Vernon was finished.

Jamal and Lucious clash, but tonight we saw that Lucious also favors him in a way (which we saw slight hints of throughout the season).

Cookie and Anika's fight was so blaxploitation, but I loved it.

Lucious telling all his misdeeds while medicated was so dream like, but it was a clever way for Cookie to learn the truth.