Members amybrickwallace Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 I know, but I'm also talking about now, it would be even more ridiculous to switch subscribers for the one show. YT and streaming hadn't really come into their own yet. If it had while Passions was still on DTV, do you think it would have made a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allmc2008 Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 DTV could have used it to launch an online venture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amybrickwallace Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 What could have been, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 id even throw PC in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 I can't help but wonder what kind of reception PC would get now. Between the shorter arcs and the vampire stuff they were ahead of their time. The regular soap fans would still bitch but I think the show could build a new audience relatively quickly. What makes me sad/angry about all of this is that between the Veronica Mars digital spinoff and the returns of Heroes and 24 we're seeing the networks more open to online content and short arc storytelling but I don't think the soaps will benefit from any of that now. Part of that is because of PP's incompetence, some of it is because of ABC's interference and some of it is because of the (remaining) audience's resistance to any change whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 ABC/Disney were in bed with Hulu and PP on this venture, at least initially. Part of me suspects ABC would rather simply be running the venture themselves. Which I wouldn't mind, predicated on the terms I outlined in my prior part. I would've been happy with them just snapping up the existing shows that ran last year and continuing the productions. They're cheap and they're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 12, 2014 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yeah Vee I always thought ot would benefit both ABC & PP if they co-produced these soaps but alas I doubt that will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 ABC wants to put an end to this relationship, but PP will not surrender the rights to the shows even though they don't want to pay for the property. They are just as slick as ABC only they don't have the cash backing them. It's a game to everyone involved. One big fat pissing contest. Whether you like it or not, ABC should get their property back so that this madness can come to a close [and I don't want to see any of those characters on GH]. The rest? Let the courts settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 12, 2014 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 well given that the rights themselves are a big part of the lawsuit, I dont see the rights going anywhere til the case is settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 Fine with me. I don't think ABC deserves their property back. Especially if even half of what's alleged in the lawsuit is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 John, clear something up for me. How are the rights part of the lawsuit when PP only asked that the courts allow PP to not make payments until the matter was resolved? That is not part of the lawsuit. If they file 11, and those debts are forgiven [i can't imagine ABC fighting this when they no longer want business dealings with PP for the time being], the rights go back to ABC. PP cannot have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 This is what all soaps are missing. Ron thinks this is boring. At a panel about television over the weekend at the South by Southwest conference in Austin, Tex., Kathleen McCaffrey of HBO said that television entered people’s lives by letting go of procedurals about doctors and lawyers and telling stories about authentic, frequently flawed people. “So much of the conversation comes from strong serialized dramas about people’s lives and how they live them,” she said. . This used to be what soaps were. Now they're just a poor imitation of outdated primetime series that are going by the wayside. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/business/media/fenced-in-by-televisions-excess-of-excellence.html?WT.mc_id=BU-D-I-NYT-MOD-MOD-M348a-ROS-0314-HDR&WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_c=241137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 12, 2014 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 Its common in suits like this for rights to be frozen til case settled and either side can do anything with them until case is settled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ellabelle Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 Not John but, the rights to the show are part of the lawsuit because 1. PP FILED A MOTION WITH THE COURT asking the court to freeze the contract - ie, stop the clock on when payments had to be made and asked that fees due ABC be waived. When you file a motion with the court as part of a lawsuit, the contents of that motion are part of the lawsuit. 2. The entire subject of the lawsuit is PP alleging breach of contract on ABC's part - the contract in question deals with who has rights to the show. The rights to the show are a crucial part of the lawsuit. The Hollywood Reporter says that ABC has been granted an extension to file a response to PP's lawsuit, and that there are rumors a cross complaint may be forthcoming - in other words, ABC may turn around and sue Prospect Park. Given that PP only leased the rights to the show from ABC and didn't buy them outright, I think it's inevitable that ABC is eventually going to get the rights back. The question is when and under what circumstances - and we likely won't have an answer to that until the lawsuit between the two parties is resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted March 12, 2014 Members Share Posted March 12, 2014 If only they'd come to a compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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