Since this guy is Nikki's son with a sociopathic cult leader who raped her, I would much have rather he been a little unhinged like the Baldwin/Fisher boys. But I guess the Newmans already have Adam for that.

He wasn't raised by the cult leader though so why would he be unhinged? Its bad enough we have to sit through Dillion's PTSD. And we have at least 4 unhinged men on canvas.

Didn't Victor have an interest in Devon when he first came to town?

And that would have been the best time to pursue a Victor mentoring Devon and power struggle with Neil-type storyline. When Devon was still a foster child and was not yet adopted, still somewhat unable to fully trust. I could have seen Victor seeing a bit of Devon in himself and a mentorship relationship would have had more resonance.

I always wondered why they didn't pursue anything back then. I think that was around the time that the Rec Center shifted to the Athletic Club. Even something as simple as Victor seeing Devon at the punching bag and giving him a few pointers. It wouldn't have taken much to build a storyline back then and that could have had payoff several years later. It could've given both characters an extra layer and would've given new viewers (at the time) a more organic way to dig into Victor's backstory as well as provide exposition to Devon's story without it being so obviously expository.

As it stands now, I don't see Devon in much of a need for anyone besides an accountant and a financial/business manager. Trying to make Devon some type of naif now when he is a grown azz man doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

Doing it now, makes Victor look shallow and Devon naive. JMO.

Edited November 18, 201312 yr by DramatistDreamer

He wasn't raised by the cult leader though so why would he be unhinged? Its bad enough we have to sit through Dillion's PTSD. And we have at least 4 unhinged men on canvas.

The whole nature versus nurture debate...he could just be a bad seed.

And that would have been the best time to pursue a Victor mentoring Devon and power struggle with Neil-type storyline. When Devon was still a foster child and was not yet adopted, still somewhat unable to fully trust. I could have seen Victor seeing a bit of Devon in himself and a mentorship relationship would have had more resonance.

I always wondered why they didn't pursue anything back then. I think that was around the time that the Rec Center shifted to the Athletic Club. Even something as simple as Victor seeing Devon at the punching bag and giving him a few pointers. It wouldn't have taken much to build a storyline back then and that could have had payoff several years later. It could've given both characters an extra layer and would've given new viewers (at the time) a more organic way to dig into Victor's backstory as well as provide exposition to Devon's story without it being so obviously expository.

As it stands now, I don't see Devon in much of a need for anyone besides an accountant and a financial/business manager. Trying to make Devon some type of naif now when he is a grown azz man doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

Doing it now, makes Victor look shallow and Devon naive. JMO.

Disagree here. The only people that look shallow are Jack and jill who ever had any use for Devon. Victor, on the other hand, always was shown to care before hand. I don't think Devon looks naïve either. I think he is looking more so in finding some answers to what Kay wanted. In that regard, he has a riddle just as Jill and Nikki as motivation for why he is pursuing the relationship. Makes sense to me.

Saw this on twitter for this week's Y&R

Disagree here. The only people that look shallow are Jack and jill who ever had any use for Devon. Victor, on the other hand, always was shown to care before hand. I don't think Devon looks naïve either. I think he is looking more so in finding some answers to what Kay wanted. In that regard, he has a riddle just as Jill and Nikki as motivation for why he is pursuing the relationship. Makes sense to me.

To me, it's not even worth it to get into the mole storyline, it's filler.

Victor and Devon, on the other hand, could have had some merit, years ago. In order for this to work currently, I'd have to suspend all belief that Devon is capable of functioning as an adult and hiring his own financial adviser.

Also, I'd have to believe that Neil, who has managed two multi-billion dollar companies, is incapable of advising his son in any meaningful way.

When was the last time that Devon and Victor had a substantive conversation that wasn't in passing? I mean, before he came into all this money?

It just seems like a day late and a dollar short type of storyline. The seeds were never truly properly planted, so I don't expect this to bear any fruit from this now.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Edited November 18, 201312 yr by DramatistDreamer

Another thing I do find refreshing about Hilary is that she's not the long lost child of anyone currently on canvas.

Another thing I do find refreshing about Hilary is that she's not the long lost child of anyone currently on canvas.

They rarely [if at all] do that with black characters because there is never any intent to make them important to the canvas. You only do that with characters you care about.

Hill is on today?

There have only been a handful of scenes where Amelia Heinle hasn't completely bombed as Victoria. This is the only one I could remember:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc07Vpl9O9g

They rarely [if at all] do that with black characters because there is never any intent to make them important to the canvas. You only do that with characters you care about.

Hill is on today?

It happened to Devon and I still didn't get the impression MAB cared about him.

There have only been a handful of scenes where Amelia Heinle hasn't completely bombed as Victoria. This is the only one I could remember:

What year was that 2006 or 2007?

Edited November 19, 201312 yr by cassadine1991

Hill is on today?

No. I just saw today's U.S. episode on the website.

Those scenes of Billy and Adam in the chatroom are so '90s.

You Tube clips of Victoria slapping Victor. Yes! That is THE Victoria Newman. She really was every bit the older sibling in that scene with Nick.

It seems that Victoria now (no offense to AH) has gone through some sort of infantilization.

Edited November 19, 201312 yr by DramatistDreamer

David Tom will be back!!!

Not that it will matter, but so happy!

Edited November 19, 201312 yr by YRBB

David Tom will be back!!!

Not that it will matter, but so happy!

Lol you really should've put this in the spoiler thread.

Edited November 19, 201312 yr by chicklitsandfantasies

whoa..

Edited November 19, 201312 yr by cassadine1991