The Nola drag queens! That was so well done, IMO. I had forgot about that.

The writing for Nick was not that good either. They had him use a hate crime to keep Kyle. I know they cut out therapy scenes that would have ended his character on a more positive note, but the whole thing makes me think they mostly care about positive portrayals if the characters are white.

I thought they handled Nick well enough at the end - they made it clear he was traumatized - but that's me.

I do believe he was originally supposed to be part of the summer musical story, before all gays got iced. He was the kids' advisor or new teacher or something, then poof. So yes, he did end on a poor note overall simply because they left it at that.

Edited July 10, 201312 yr by Vee

Forget about that lame ass feud. KS came at Natalie Hall, for what other than to justify being BB's rebound?

All KS had to do what leave that alone. BB is the bitter one, but the new gf needs to stay the hell out of it. Natalie cheated, BB has moved on to KS. That really s/b the end of it! KS is such a [!@#$%^&*] loser, she really is!

I don't think any of them came off very well in that exchange, but I know Kirsten and Farah have a much longer history of public foolishness and bullshit than the diabolical Jen Lilley who (gasp!) was a r-r-r-recast for K-K-K-Kirsten Storms!

So, whatever. That whole weird clique of sad soap people trying to attempt relevance bores me to tears. They're all about 200 city blocks from approaching the Gossip Girl fame circuit, or even the D-list of The Hills, long may it fester in Hell.

Unfortunately, JL allowed herself to be pulled into a mess, but KS/FF are used to this kind of thing because both are messy. I don't expect less from two people who are limited in acting department, so they have to create drama elsewhere.

The most confusing would have to be the fans who don't realize that Maxie is not an important enough character to any part of this show to sit idle for 9 months. Either recast or get rid of her altogether (I've longed for the character's death since the beginning of 2008 - before that, she was one of my favs). KS was out for 9 months because she couldn't 'keep her nose clean" or Endometriosis. Sorry, those 2 afflictions are always confusing to me. In the meantime, JL was temporarily recast, and she has been disrespected because she dare do a good job and continued in the role when KS' first scheduled return was canceled. These rabid ass people give soap fans such a bad look!

JP, we will just have to call it a draw because the both of us are seeing 2 different things from the same incident. I am not an fan of either, but JL has been disrespected from day one!

I know I am a a little late but I would just like to say that Jen Lilley is the epitome of annoying and I had to unfollow her ass before she ever even left GH. She riles up her fans CONSTANTLy by posting things she know will stir people up. Then she deletes the tweets and gives Jesus a shoutout and pretends she's some innocent. She did NOT save the character of Maxie from being killed off, it is literally the most ludicrous thing I've heard in a very long time. I don't even think Kirsten could dictate story like that, let alone her temp. - recurring recast.

I know I am a a little late but I would just like to say that Jen Lilley is the epitome of annoying and I had to unfollow her ass before she ever even left GH. She riles up her fans CONSTANTLy by posting things she know will stir people up. Then she deletes the tweets and gives Jesus a shoutout and pretends she's some innocent. She did NOT save the character of Maxie from being killed off, it is literally the most ludicrous thing I've heard in a very long time. I don't even think Kirsten could dictate story like that, let alone her temp. - recurring recast.

Ranting about straight people, trying to force a young, twink-ish straight man (a rape victim no less) to have sex with him, all the inappropriate behavior with Felix. Everything about Brad reminds me of something a hate group would come up with as the typical gay man.

Brad is nothing to me, so I don't watch any of his stuff, but I made an exception yesterday. It looked as if moRon was taking a shot at straight people, and had nothing to do with the character at all.

Let's face it. moRon is horrible at this craft, but his "writing" for minority characters exudes disdain. With Felix and Brad, I am seeing 2 depraved minorites as opposed to 2 gay men. moRon is consistent if nothing else!

Shawn? Well, now that there is no Alexis for him, all the audience will see is this big black killing machine?

He threatened Michael and Kiki (sigh) and said he'd reveal their "incestuous" kiss to the world if Michael didn't go to bed with him.

When I read this, I thought you were kidding so I went to look up a recap. *shakes head* Is there no form is sexual coercion that Ron can stay away from?

It's particularly sad to see this [!@#$%^&*] when you remember what this same creative team once did with Kyle and Oliver on OLTL, or Nick, who though he screwed up was always depicted as an essentially decent and wonderful person, or "Mel" and Delphina - or even those New Orleans drag queens who Marcie stayed with back in 2007, who were still depicted with inner strength and dignity as men, something that was particularly unheard of back then as they sat around with Marcie and talked about Louisiana after Katrina. That's all a million miles away.

So that makes me ask, what's different? Who or what did RC have access to then that he doesn't now?

For instance, I'm a fan of Michael Malone's writing but I agree with those who say he benefited from Gottlieb's strong hand. Left to his own devices, he can go off the rails pretty quickly. What has happened to RC that now he can actually put this kind of thing on screen? Is it that he just doesn't care about GH? Is it desperation for "buzz?" Is it that his love of rape as a storyline device or his demonstrated weakness with characters of color outweighs his desire or ability to write LGBT characters? Is it possible that Kish et al now benefits from nostalgia (for the record I'm not speaking about you specifically but generally) because they were killed in their prime so Ron simply didn't have a chance to turn them into twisted caricatures?

When I read this, I thought you were kidding so I went to look up a recap. *shakes head* Is there no form is sexual coercion that Ron can stay away from?

So that makes me ask, what's different? Who or what did RC have access to then that he doesn't now?

For instance, I'm a fan of Michael Malone's writing but I agree with those who say he benefited from Gottlieb's strong hand. Left to his own devices, he can go off the rails pretty quickly. What has happened to RC that now he can actually put this kind of thing on screen? Is it that he just doesn't care about GH? Is it desperation for "buzz?" Is it that his love of rape as a storyline device or his demonstrated weakness with characters of color outweighs his desire or ability to write LGBT characters? Is it possible that Kish et al now benefits from nostalgia (for the record I'm not speaking about you specifically but generally) because they were killed in their prime so Ron simply didn't have a chance to turn them into twisted caricatures?

YES YES YES!!!!! I just posted something very similar!

Thanks Vee. That sounds so stupid. That's not an offer; its blackmail. It's tasteless considering Michael's rape

Thanks Vee. That sounds so stupid. That's not an offer; its blackmail. It's tasteless considering Michael's rape

I agree that the whole thing is tasteless, but not because Michael is a rape victim (can't keep him away from harm forever). It's horrible because of Brad's (moRon's) motives. He's going to screw an straight guy into being gay since heterosexual people are so despicable. Brad dislikes straight people so much that he will blackmail one as some sort of "revenge"? This is moRon speaking, once again, thru one of his characters, and it's all kinds of putrid!

All KS had to do what leave that alone. BB is the bitter one, but the new gf needs to stay the hell out of it. Natalie cheated, BB has moved on to KS. That really s/b the end of it! KS is such a [!@#$%^&*] loser, she really is!

Regardless of what went down it looks stupid as hell for the rebound chick to be harping on it when the ex fiancee has moved on

When I read this, I thought you were kidding so I went to look up a recap. *shakes head* Is there no form is sexual coercion that Ron can stay away from?

So that makes me ask, what's different? Who or what did RC have access to then that he doesn't now?

For instance, I'm a fan of Michael Malone's writing but I agree with those who say he benefited from Gottlieb's strong hand. Left to his own devices, he can go off the rails pretty quickly. What has happened to RC that now he can actually put this kind of thing on screen? Is it that he just doesn't care about GH? Is it desperation for "buzz?" Is it that his love of rape as a storyline device or his demonstrated weakness with characters of color outweighs his desire or ability to write LGBT characters? Is it possible that Kish et al now benefits from nostalgia (for the record I'm not speaking about you specifically but generally) because they were killed in their prime so Ron simply didn't have a chance to turn them into twisted caricatures?

I do wonder if it's a color issue. Beyond that, I think after ABC killed some of his stories in 2010, he has since decided that it's just going to be all camp all the time and that's all anyone wants.

I do wonder if it's a color issue. Beyond that, I think after ABC killed some of his stories in 2010, he has since decided that it's just going to be all camp all the time and that's all anyone wants.

That would make sense. Working at ABCD has to be napalm for the soap writer's soul. RC isn't a strong writer to begin with so The Great OLTL Whitewashing might've killed off the better part of his creativity.

That tidbit about Brad and Michael is disgusting. Is Brad really that desperate for some d-ck? Michael ain't even all that.