However, I think they wanted to give Sonny a woman after Brenda left because, of course, Sonny can't survive without having a woman to put his baby maker baton in for more than two weeks at a stretch. So, I think it was just a lazy attempt at giving Maurice a new partner without having to create a new character.

And yet, no one has better chemistry with MB than Steve Burton. It just cracks me up.

I wish that they never aknowledged Karen's death on GH. I do not think the Baldwins appeared on GH to mourne her.

By this time, GH and PC were so far removed in terms of continuity. With cancellation of PC an innevitablity, Karen would have fit back in the GH canvas well for being pretty far removed from the supernatural stories. It would also have given the character of Scotty more viability and dramatic foil to his destructive streak.

By that time Guza was writing Scott to be a single-minded villainous prosecutor who was going after the poor mobettes because he was being vindictive for no other reason than his own fame and fortune. I always wondered why they never brought in the Karen aspect, but I guess that would have given Scott another dimension he was not allowed to have.

I hated that Guza did that to Scott when I had such great memories of him with Dominique and also with Laura.

Agreed. GH should have ignored Karen's death.

Is that fair to PORT CHARLES fans, though? That would be my concern.

Is that fair to PORT CHARLES fans, though? That would be my concern.

I was a PC fan and hated that they killed her off to begin with. GH ignored a TON of other stuff from PC's latter years, so it wouldnt have been much of a stretch to ignore this.

By the time PC went off the air, there were only about 100 of us watching it, isn't that right? They were probably not expecting a huge uprising.

I used to watch PC, but only because it came on right after I got home from work at night. It was comic relief before I went to bed.

RSinclair, I agree...I was happy for Carlintini to come to GH ... I never thought like some they are the rock stars of soaps...but I believed they cared a lot about this genre of storytelling so that was a one up on Guza who I never got that impression. But starting off straightaway with the OLTL crossover without at least tackling GH is my major complaint. its not a bad concept to crossover but personally? I think this will be more about OLTL down the pike...the crossover characters will not stop; Tea isn't the last. I was surprised discovering there are a lot of GH fans who did not watch OLTL (like me) & vice versa. The ones I'm coming across are not that enthused re: the crossover but are still watching the show.

I used to love One Life more than GH but the shows are just so different that I don't see the point in merging them and in the first interview Valentini gave, he stated that they would first be focusing on GH and worry about crossovers later. GH needed a lot of fixing before they even considered a crossover.

It would have made more sense for ABC to merge ABC/OLTL instead of outright cancelling both. Both being Nixon soaps, they had a more similar vibe and tone.Being that the towns are relatively close to each other, crossovers wouldnt have felt so contrived/forced

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I was never under the impression Cartini cared about soaps. I f they did they wouldn't have written there own so badly.

All producers edit. That is apart of the job description.

Oh ok I never knew this my tweet is really dumb now.

Re: Carlintini caring about soaps: I'm just going by what I read about them as a team from other posters & their interviews; I like the fact how Ron started for the most part from the ground up; I stopped watching their show quite a few years ago; I didn't like how they wrote Evangeline Williamson so along with many of her fans I bailed. I can't comment on how badly it was written/produced esp since it has been said repeatedly Brian Frons was all in it... Carlivati said (in a dc podcast a couple of years ago) that he sat down w/Frons with his outlines then it was tweaked .... then approved (I assume).

Edited April 14, 201213 yr by Cyberologist

I was a PC fan and hated that they killed her off to begin with. GH ignored a TON of other stuff from PC's latter years, so it wouldnt have been much of a stretch to ignore this.

I agree the problem started at PC, killing Karen off for no reason other than the fact that Marie Wilson was not being used. But, GH had stopped aknowledging plot points on PC and vice versa. These shows had seemingly existed in separate continuities. A fact still not rectified since GH's cancellation.

BTW Cheap, I love the picture of Lisa Rinna in your profile. It is a great shot; I wish she looked like that on air.

BTW Cheap, I love the picture of Lisa Rinna in your profile. It is a great shot; I wish she looked like that on air.

Thanks. Her promo shots from this recent return were pretty good

Oh ok I never knew this my tweet is really dumb now.

Re: Carlintini caring about soaps: I'm just going by what I read about them as a team from other posters & their interviews; I like the fact how Ron started for the most part from the ground up; I stopped watching their show quite a few years ago; I didn't like how they wrote Evangeline Williamson so along with many of her fans I bailed. I can't comment on how badly it was written/produced esp since it has been said repeatedly Brian Frons was all in it... Carlivati said (in a dc podcast a couple of years ago) that he sat down w/Frons with his outlines then it was tweaked .... then approved (I assume).

Yeah the producers job is to handle production. That heavily consists of editing the show, handling the budget, overseeing casting, overseeing directing, set design, etc

Ron started off not qualified for his job from the get go. He started off as a laywer not a writer. And if they get the Frons past so does Guza and so does GW yeah no excuses they just arent good at writing/production.

I thought the EP was also the showrunner. Some of the stuff the HWs get blamed for should land at the feet of the EPs.

It was always said that Frons micromanaged OLTL less than GH and AMC because he hated OLTL and wasn't interested enough to control it. If that's so, then Cartini get even less of a pass.

I thought the EP was also the showrunner. Some of the stuff the HWs get blamed for should land at the feet of the EPs.

It was always said that Frons micromanaged OLTL less than GH and AMC because he hated OLTL and wasn't interested enough to control it. If that's so, then Cartini get even less of a pass.

You're definitely correct

At the end of the day, GH was spared, in part, because of Cartini's involvement in that otherwise comatose soap. Their inclusion of the OLTL characters (which I'm well aware of it being a ploy) was a great move, as well as vindication for those whose superior soap was cut short while the most inferior of the three got to (inexplicably) live on.

And, well, I'll straight out say it - the presence of John, Starr, and/or Todd is the only reason why many are tuning in in the first place, as we consider this current soap to be an empty vessel that Cartini have them allowed to play the next chapter of their lives out in. Should Cartini foolishly rid the show of the OLTLers, it's a given that many like myself will take their viewership with them - and I'm sure that is the last thing that they'd want.