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Y&R: Discussion for the Month of October

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Tucker was painted into a corner from the start. They never cared about building relationships for the character, and Stephen Nichols has been half-asleep the entire time. They have thrown some of the best actors in daytime at him and it just never changes. Tucker is a pointless character.

Pretty much.

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I'm a big fan of Stephen's but I, too, am disappointed. Sometimes, I feel like he might be ill. I loved him on GH though, Stefan Cassadine is one of my favorite characters ever...well before the awful writing and before he was a crispy critter.

Tucker had potential.

HWs should be like a Jesuit priest -- they break down a character before building them back up. Tucker is broke down, but if we had a talented HW there is no reason why he couldn't be built back up again. "Talented HW" is key, of course, lol.

SN should be written off the canvas. It's a shame because I loved him as Steve on Days and later as Stefan on GH. The range he showed in both roles! I rejoiced when he came to Y&R because I wasn't nuts about his predecessor who played Tucker as Peepaw McElvis.

As for Kay, the show has tried to paint her manipulative and selfish actions as some kind of selfless wisdom bestowing respectability on characters the audience hates (Cane, Kevin, Chloe) while pissing on beloved vets (Jill, mostly, but also Jack, Paul, Chance). That makes me despise her more, actually. I'm glad that they have given up trying to do that with the Devon story (for now). Jeanne Cooper's performance is actually the better for it.

Kay has always been a self-serving, self-absorbed, unstable character whose actions led to the death of two Philip Chancellors. She gave away other people's babies (and her own) when she was totally drunk off her ass, tried to ruin every one of Jill's marriages, kept Jabot out of the hands of the Abbotts (despite her self-proclaimed "loyalty" to the memory of John Abbott) and then tried to deny Tucker the chance to connect with his long-lost son. Granny Chancellor is finally exposed!

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WTF? Giggly Heffa is forgiven by Malcolm for trampling over him in her rush to blast his family's secret across the internet? In the first 3 minutes of Friday's show?! [!@#$%^&*] you Y&R.

I thought the show was laying off showing Phyllis 24/7 because of negative viewer feedback and the fact that MAB wrote what was once the show's most promising triangle into the ground (and ruined Sharon in order to prop Phick). I guess I was mistaken.

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WTF? Giggly Heffa is forgiven by Malcolm for trampling over him in her rush to blast his family's secret across the internet? In the first 3 minutes of Friday's show?! [!@#$%^&*] you Y&R.

I thought the show was laying off showing Phyllis 24/7 because of negative viewer feedback and the fact that MAB wrote what was once the show's most promising triangle into the ground (and ruined Sharon in order to prop Phick). I guess I was mistaken.

She's awful. She's the Y&R equivalent of GH's Carly and one of the main reasons why I find it hard to watch

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Kay has always been a self-serving, self-absorbed, unstable character whose actions led to the death of two Philip Chancellors. She gave away other people's babies (and her own) when she was totally drunk off her ass, tried to ruin every one of Jill's marriages, kept Jabot out of the hands of the Abbotts (despite her self-proclaimed "loyalty" to the memory of John Abbott) and then tried to deny Tucker the chance to connect with his long-lost son. Granny Chancellor is finally exposed!

Yep.

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It annoys me that during the last go-round with Jill, Katharine was written as a saint, and now, only when they want to try to exhume Tucker, is Katharine written in a more negative light. I also think the constant health crises are so morbid and patronizing.

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It annoys me that during the last go-round with Jill, Katharine was written as a saint, and now, only when they want to try to exhume Tucker, is Katharine written in a more negative light. I also think the constant health crises are so morbid and patronizing.

I spoke too soon -- today's US episode wasn't just about propping Giggly Heffa, it was about re-positioning that halo atop Saint Granny's head. Swooping down to help YoHarmony -- right after she lectured Devon about his uncharitable attitude towards her.

IA about the health crises, they are morbid -- they also look like Kay is playing everybody by stroking out and then, one day later, making a miraculous recovery. Handing out alms to Yolanda comes across as equally self-serving. Right now she's trying to bribe her way into Devon's affections with the record company deal. I'm betting that when Devon starts to show interest, she will snatch it away from him (Aha! That'll teach ya!) like she does Jabot with Jack.

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Not crazy about the way Debbi Morgan is playing Yolanda/Harmony so far -- much too tough, much too hard. I don't want a weeping mess, but the character's too different from old Yolanda.hable.

The name change is laughable. First Candy, then Yolanda, then Harmony. It's ridiculous.

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Everytime I hear the name Yolanda, I think of Yolanda Vega. People from NY, know who Im talking about

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Y&R, this is the 3,000,000 viewers number. 3,000,000 viewers number, this is Y&R. Go kick Y&R's ass!

They SO deserve it.

Will they EVER get rid of MAB? Alden is right across the hall.

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i keep wishing kay would come back! what is stopping her? please soap gods make it happen!!

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Kay has always been a self-serving, self-absorbed, unstable character whose actions led to the death of two Philip Chancellors. She gave away other people's babies (and her own) when she was totally drunk off her ass, tried to ruin every one of Jill's marriages, kept Jabot out of the hands of the Abbotts (despite her self-proclaimed "loyalty" to the memory of John Abbott) and then tried to deny Tucker the chance to connect with his long-lost son. Granny Chancellor is finally exposed!

And that self serving, self absorbed, unstable character is the Kay Chancellor I LOVE. If MAB and Co would just realize that a good many of us like Kay written as a conflicted, hot mess of a bitch they'd be writing a much more likeable character!

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She's awful. She's the Y&R equivalent of GH's Carly and one of the main reasons why I find it hard to watch

She's the main reason I DID quit watching.

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Damn y'all, I love me some Phyllis.

I used to be a Phyllis lover, from her first scene till about 2003 and then she started to eat the show alive. Michelle Stafford became a "star" at Y&R, the only soap, so far as I can recall, that never had a breakout diva or star (Eric Braeden's close, but he isn't Lucci or Slezak or Strasser or Wyndham or Dano or Zimmer)...and that's when I just had enough of Phyllis. She was the ideal supporting character, just like Michael Baldwin. The minute they both became leads, it was all over.

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