Members DeeeDee Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 HWs should be like a Jesuit priest -- they break down a character before building them back up. Tucker is broke down, but if we had a talented HW there is no reason why he couldn't be built back up again. "Talented HW" is key, of course, lol. SN should be written off the canvas. It's a shame because I loved him as Steve on Days and later as Stefan on GH. The range he showed in both roles! I rejoiced when he came to Y&R because I wasn't nuts about his predecessor who played Tucker as Peepaw McElvis. As for Kay, the show has tried to paint her manipulative and selfish actions as some kind of selfless wisdom bestowing respectability on characters the audience hates (Cane, Kevin, Chloe) while pissing on beloved vets (Jill, mostly, but also Jack, Paul, Chance). That makes me despise her more, actually. I'm glad that they have given up trying to do that with the Devon story (for now). Jeanne Cooper's performance is actually the better for it. Kay has always been a self-serving, self-absorbed, unstable character whose actions led to the death of two Philip Chancellors. She gave away other people's babies (and her own) when she was totally drunk off her ass, tried to ruin every one of Jill's marriages, kept Jabot out of the hands of the Abbotts (despite her self-proclaimed "loyalty" to the memory of John Abbott) and then tried to deny Tucker the chance to connect with his long-lost son. Granny Chancellor is finally exposed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 WTF? Giggly Heffa is forgiven by Malcolm for trampling over him in her rush to blast his family's secret across the internet? In the first 3 minutes of Friday's show?! [!@#$%^&*] you Y&R. I thought the show was laying off showing Phyllis 24/7 because of negative viewer feedback and the fact that MAB wrote what was once the show's most promising triangle into the ground (and ruined Sharon in order to prop Phick). I guess I was mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 She's awful. She's the Y&R equivalent of GH's Carly and one of the main reasons why I find it hard to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 It annoys me that during the last go-round with Jill, Katharine was written as a saint, and now, only when they want to try to exhume Tucker, is Katharine written in a more negative light. I also think the constant health crises are so morbid and patronizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 I spoke too soon -- today's US episode wasn't just about propping Giggly Heffa, it was about re-positioning that halo atop Saint Granny's head. Swooping down to help YoHarmony -- right after she lectured Devon about his uncharitable attitude towards her. IA about the health crises, they are morbid -- they also look like Kay is playing everybody by stroking out and then, one day later, making a miraculous recovery. Handing out alms to Yolanda comes across as equally self-serving. Right now she's trying to bribe her way into Devon's affections with the record company deal. I'm betting that when Devon starts to show interest, she will snatch it away from him (Aha! That'll teach ya!) like she does Jabot with Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ranger1rg Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Not crazy about the way Debbi Morgan is playing Yolanda/Harmony so far -- much too tough, much too hard. I don't want a weeping mess, but the character's too different from old Yolanda.hable. The name change is laughable. First Candy, then Yolanda, then Harmony. It's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted October 14, 2011 Members Share Posted October 14, 2011 Everytime I hear the name Yolanda, I think of Yolanda Vega. People from NY, know who Im talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 Y&R, this is the 3,000,000 viewers number. 3,000,000 viewers number, this is Y&R. Go kick Y&R's ass! They SO deserve it. Will they EVER get rid of MAB? Alden is right across the hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glatwt Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 i keep wishing kay would come back! what is stopping her? please soap gods make it happen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 And that self serving, self absorbed, unstable character is the Kay Chancellor I LOVE. If MAB and Co would just realize that a good many of us like Kay written as a conflicted, hot mess of a bitch they'd be writing a much more likeable character! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Becki Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 She's the main reason I DID quit watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted October 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 Damn y'all, I love me some Phyllis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted October 15, 2011 Members Share Posted October 15, 2011 I used to be a Phyllis lover, from her first scene till about 2003 and then she started to eat the show alive. Michelle Stafford became a "star" at Y&R, the only soap, so far as I can recall, that never had a breakout diva or star (Eric Braeden's close, but he isn't Lucci or Slezak or Strasser or Wyndham or Dano or Zimmer)...and that's when I just had enough of Phyllis. She was the ideal supporting character, just like Michael Baldwin. The minute they both became leads, it was all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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