1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

I think you can throw Ned on that list too.  Guza (especially during JFP) kind of lumped all the Q’s together.  They became the two days a week crew, and often their stories revolved around Jason, Emily, or Tracy and her kids (especially Dillon and Georgie/Lulu).  Or just scenes of the entire family arguing.  Luke being moved into their orbit gave them more screen time, but they were shells of their former glory.

Agreed! the Qs were really lumped all together as one bunch in the 2000s!

I loved seeing Alan and Monica as the lead of their own stories in the 70s-90s. Alan and Monica's best years were their most vicious and toxic: (79-83). The  Rick Weber and Susan Moore storylines. The 90s added more humanism and emotional weight to their characters, rather than just the bickering war of the roses. In the 90s we got to see scenes like Alan's emotional reaction to Edward in the hospital and Monica's breast cancer. 

Speaking of the early 2000s and Rick Weber, it's crazy how long the ramifications of his murder lasted. It was still affecting story as late as 2008.  I think I recall Alan and Lulu mentioning it during the 2007 hostage crisis.

Edited September 8, 20223 yr by ironlion

10 hours ago, ironlion said:

 

Speaking of the early 2000s and Rick Weber, it's crazy how long the ramifications of his murder lasted. It was still affecting story as late as 2008.  I think I recall Alan and Lulu mentioning it during the 2007 hostage crisis.

At the time I liked that when Laura was slipping back into her catatonic state that she “remembered” that she did not kill Rick.  It gave Lulu a story tied to Laura. I was hoping it would lead to Laura actually returning back then but that didn’t happen. Scotty being the killer was just as unfortunate as the whole storyline ended up being.

11 hours ago, carolineg said:

IA about Ned.  I think Ned did have more to do than, say, Tony until 2004 ish.  I do think JFP/Guza did want to do something with Ned and did Ned/Alexis, Kristina 1.0, changed Skye from a Q to a non Q just so Ned/Skye could date, and brought recast Lois back.  That didn't work, but I think they had a little more interest in Ned than Mac or Tony. 

Alan did have the whole Skye/Rae storyline and a few cancer scares with Monica.  He also was pretty involved in AJ trying to get custody of Michael.  Take those stories for what you will, but he had some material.  Again,  SD was wasted, but I literally can't remember what Tony did in that period or if he was even on the show lol.

Ned did have more to do than Mac or Tony, but still felt cast aside to me at a certain point.  And I forgot about Skye/Rae and Alan.  But again, what should have been centered on him even a little felt more centered on Skye.  A way to bring her on the show and then not fully explore Alan’s side of things.  I actually liked her as a Q though.

The last I can recall for Tony being involved in with any impact- the horrible endgame storyline working with Helena, and then his death scenes with Lucas coming out.  It is a miracle JFP survived that storyline as EP, it was a disaster on every level.

57 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

At the time I liked that when Laura was slipping back into her catatonic state that she “remembered” that she did not kill Rick.  It gave Lulu a story tied to Laura. I was hoping it would lead to Laura actually returning back then but that didn’t happen. Scotty being the killer was just as unfortunate as the whole storyline ended up being.

Ned did have more to do than Mac or Tony, but still felt cast aside to me at a certain point.  And I forgot about Skye/Rae and Alan.  But again, what should have been centered on him even a little felt more centered on Skye.  A way to bring her on the show and then not fully explore Alan’s side of things.  I actually liked her as a Q though.

The last I can recall for Tony being involved in with any impact- the horrible endgame storyline working with Helena, and then his death scenes with Lucas coming out.  It is a miracle JFP survived that storyline as EP, it was a disaster on every level.

Yeah, Ned definitely was cast aside eventually, but it's hard for me to say if it was because JFP/Guza disliked him or if too many of his stories tanked and they gave up.

The Alan/Rae/Skye story was centered on Skye (and Rae) especially with those Linda Dano traipsing all through the ABC daytime lineup looking for her kid and kid's dad.  I have never thought Skye was a great fit for GH, but I did like her as a Q and it shouldn't have been undone just so she could date Ned.   I always thought Skye worked better with AJ, Alan, Edward, etc than any of her love interests.  

I totally forgot Tony being involved in the Helena endgame stuff.  That was very random.

They got Sarah Joy Brown back and wasted her. Her take on Claudia was amazing.

Is my memory correct that Sarah Joy Brown was messed up twice in her career because she her character on GH and DAYS were created under writers who were then fired soon after she began appearing on screen?

On 9/8/2022 at 9:43 AM, carolineg said:

Linda Dano traipsing all through the ABC daytime lineup looking for her kid and kid's dad. 

I've taken to calling the branding experiment Shapiro's Folly (Although I am torn because she did fire Wendy Riche.) Anyway, it's my new Lingering Question, did those HWs hate that & so far so good, one down, hated it, throws in that they all did.

Sarah lasted almost two years as Claudia. The writers didn't change, though Guza was on strike IIRC when Claudia first appeared and JFP crafted a lot of early material herself. I don't believe she was hired against Guza's will though (unlike JFP's attempt to craft frontburner solo story for Rick Hearst while he was away).

Technically Claire Labine helped plan and mold the concept of Carly and may or may not have had her name on some of her most early episodes, I'm not sure, but she was gone before the character began airing and every writer who was part of both those teams (ValJean, Harris, Mulcahey) has gone to great pains to say that Guza was ultimately the main driver of creating that character.

Madison on DAYS also lasted almost a year, along with her writers so no, it wasn't that brief.

Edited September 13, 20223 yr by Vee

33 minutes ago, Vee said:

The writers didn't change, though Guza was on strike IIRC when Claudia first appeared and JFP crafted a lot of early material herself.

That's it - thanks @Vee

Yeah, Madison on Days was created and wrecked by the same team within the space of a year. She was killed off as those writers were leaving and the new team was coming in, but MarDar wrote all her (mostly awful) material.

 

  

22 hours ago, Michael said:

Yeah, Madison on Days was created and wrecked by the same team within the space of a year. She was killed off as those writers were leaving and the new team was coming in, but MarDar wrote all her (mostly awful) material.

There should be a special room in hell for writers who have screwed with TB! Pratt will be a permanent fixture in that room.

I know this  lured me back after the horrible way Genie Francis was written out and several other terrible story directions when Pratt/Guza arrived.  Everything was kind of a mess until VM’s return.

Another incredible anniversary!  This was such a fantastic episode.

 

 

Clink/Boom anniversary was this week too. Great insight posted by MVJ.

 

 

Wasn't Clink/boom aired May 31st 1996?

13 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Clink/Boom anniversary was this week too. Great insight posted by MVJ.