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OLTL: Discussion for the week of April 25


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You know, I really don't care about the big bore being awake and TnT being reunited (zzz), but I am beyond ready for this storyline to get rolling. TSJ is back so this storyline will finally be front burner and not just some afterthought that they squeeze in once a week. I am happy about that.

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I'm still trying to figure out how Melinda had a child and by whom. (Jon Russell?)

Nope, I think I have it figured out: Melinda was pregnant by Peter Janssen when she was re-institutionalized (in 1981); and between then and 1987, when she returned to Llanview, she also got married and had Paul.

if OLTL werent being cancelled, Im sure they would have revealed that Aubrey is Melinda's daughter and Paul's twin sister

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If OLTL werent being cancelled, Im sure they would have revealed that Aubrey is Melinda's daughter and Paul's twin sister.

I knew someone would find an upside to OLTL's cancellation sooner or later.

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I don't even like the character of Kelly or care really, but Marty was being trashed and thrown under the bus before Kellly had any interaction with John, Natalie, or Marty. In addition, let's also not act like Marty is the first person this has happened to when it comes to Jolie - Evangline and Jared come to mind. We can run a list of characters that have suffered, hell just in the last couple of years, because they came between John and Natalie. If Marty doesn't die then she'd be coming off a bit better than both Evangline and Jared - I guess that's something.

Marty had NO story and was barely seen for months before Jared died and Natalie and John started interacting. Ron Carlivati specifically stated Natalie was being added to the mix to give Marty some Ooomph. I don't see how moving her from near obscurity to a highly contentious and buzzworthy rivalry with Natalie was damaging to her character. Her story was very sympathetic. She was the wronged party and her subsequent behavior, albeit not entirely sane, was still rootable for some viewers and she had a clear POV. She'd lost everything and her resentment toward Natalie was at the very least understandable. They could have broken up Jarty and given Marty something else entirely, and that is what is more insulting to me than what they're doing now. They could have given Marty another story away from John and Natalie. If they'd wanted to put Kelly and John together somehow, the best way to do that would have been for nosy Kelly to start having feelings for John and be the one who found out about Natalie's lies. I think the best part of the WTD story was the rivalry between Natalie and Marty, precisely because although both characters were doing spiteful and dishonest things, I could understand their motivations. And the chemistry between Susan and Melissa is a thing of beauty. Up to this point nothing Marty has done is irredeemable. Even changing the paternity test isn't something from which she could never recover. Now what comes next? Well I don't see how Natalie is being propped. John's with Kelly now. Kelly's been elevated to the position of Marty's rival. Natalie is basically an afterthought. But I don't see this as much different than what happened to a lot of other characters when they were being written out. Seems RC is limited in creative ways to write characters off unless he has a particular fondness for them (like Kish), they either die, or they go crazy.

I can't even address your presumption that Evangeline went under the bus for anyone or anything at any time. And yes, I too believe Natalie and Jared got that "no wedding" wedding and he was killed off because they were going to reunite Jolie. But that's all on John as far as I'm concerned. He's the culprit who winds up being propped over and over again. Kelly is almost as bad IMHO.

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Gina was tested with nearly every male as soon as Kelly returned. First, she was with David then somebody with a bad fake accent she supposedly had an affair with. He was dropped quickly and forgotten.

The thing with John was so blatant because there were deleted scenes of Dorian asking for John's help. Very clumsily, Dorian was moved out of the story, and Kelly took her place. Like Vee said at the time, Frons seemed to be trying to sell this as another Sam/Jason, with their leather jackets.

They have thrown Kelly around again and again but I think John was their main goal. I also think that was the main reason Joey returned - because they believe viewers will see Joey as a pathetic fool who can't compare to brooding, noble, anguished John. This is the same crap OLTL did years ago with Kevin/Kelly/Joey.

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Gina was tested with nearly every male as soon as Kelly returned. First, she was with David then somebody with a bad fake accent she supposedly had an affair with. He was dropped quickly and forgotten. When she needed a "job," they had her flirting with someone she knew was a serial rapist (Todd) and extremely abusive to his "loved ones." But it gave her a reason to have cat fights with her cousin Blair (since RC avoids using the fact that John/Blair used to be married). Kelly had a few scenes with her ex-hubby Kevin whom everyone knows is restricted to brief semi-annual cameos. She had a few scenes with Clint just to make a few GL fans happy. Nothing romantic because they played father/daughter on another network's cancelled soap. :huh: Whenever John had some free time, they tested Kelly with him until a de-aged, dumbed-down Joey recast arrived as did newbie conman Cutter. Kelly was suddenly obsessed with de-aged dumbed-down Joey while Kelly/Cutter were built up and then dropped. Kelly/John are now having "mature fun" (sex and beers) until the inevitable. They each reunite with their long-time partners (my own prediction, not a spoiler). I can't tell who the hell they wanted Kelly with or why they needed her back, especially without Kevin and the young son she forgot about months ago. She's never had an actual story, romantic pairing to invest in or very much interaction with the Cramers or Lords. Other than putting GT on the roster (with almost no promotion since then), there's been no reason for Kelly being in Llanview instead of London. Another waste of an established character and talented actress. :(

That's because Frons (and Ron and Frank by extension) were more interested in "stealing" Gina from CBS than they were bringing Kelly back, writing for Kelly or giving her anything that made sense. I knew before she came to this show that the return would be a disaster (hell I was there when people told her do not go back to OLTL and while she did listen, I think she had already made up her mind that she was going to stay in NY).

Ahhh well, show's over now, so it doesn't really matter. I'm wondering if she's going to stay until the end. I'm not so sure she will.

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