I always thought it would be interesting to try to bring Cathy back - I know they remodeled her into the model of playing a 'modern feminist' as an adult, vs. Catherine Burns who I guess was the original and a wallflower, or Amy Levitt the damaged young addict. Said it before, but Burns was incredible in Last Summer. I've never gotten to see Kavanaugh or Harmon as the adult Cathy and I'd like to.

 

Years ago, when Michael Malone brought on Daniel Colson and his son Riley, and Riley rather randomly announced that he was named for crusading reporter Joe Riley who his mother had known and admired, I sometimes wondered if they were trying to imply Riley's mother was Cathy Craig.

Edited December 21, 20204 yr by Vee

It would have been interesting to see Cathy back in 2005 but at the rate they were going she would have been dead and buried in no time. 

 

Watching DAYS recently and thinking back to Marlena in comparison to Viki and how RC has overall kept Marlena at the forefront either through family or having old enemies return and thinking of what could have been with Viki.  

 

He did great with the romance with Charlie and there was obvious interference (seemed pretty glaring by 2009-2011) but I would have loved to see Viki getting a good balance of leading The Banner and battling old villains like she did in the late 80s. Obviously not kidnapped every week like Marlena and not Jamie Sanders coming back every 6 months to kidnap someone but I just wonder if there were and how many plans there were for Viki that never came to be. 

 

Edited December 21, 20204 yr by soapfave06

2 hours ago, soapfave06 said:

Watching DAYS recently and thinking back to Marlena in comparison to Viki and how RC has overall kept Marlena at the forefront either through family or having old enemies return and thinking of what could have been with Viki.  

You make an interesting point about the story telling in the later years. 

 

I was recently watching some late 1970's (maybe it was early 80's?) episodes around the time when Viki almost saw Karen turning tricks in the Llandview Hotel.  In that episode, she mentored Pat about the politics of working in the newsroom with men.  She talked to Tina about how to keep herself safe from predators.  Then, she was at the hotel to have a professional lunch about her newspaper.  Fast forward forty years and Viki never had an office set, she had no female friends, and she chased after damaged men who were rarely worth her time.    

Edited December 21, 20204 yr by j swift

I think the last time Vicki really was shown working was in the late 90s/early 2000s.  Heck..even crazy Lindsay was shown working at her gallery.

 

Do we see any of the female characters working right now?

3 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Do we see any of the female characters working right now?

Yeah, your comment inspired me to reflect on Ron's plotting.  As much as I appreciated the central role given to Viki, most of the time she was reacting to events rather than driving the narrative.  I would love to have seen how Viki navigated The Banner through the onset of online media.  To watch her struggle with editing the reporting of internet sources and gossip trolls.  It might have been more interesting than a third time through menopause or watching her feign interest over the fatherhood of Natalie's latest child.

 

Although one has to credit Ron for creating Walker/Flynn, Victor Jr, and Todd, the first doppelganger of a long lost twin ever in the history of soaps.  He later repeated the same hat trick on DOOL with Hattie.  If Adrienne or Bonnie get a long lost twin then we'll have a trifecta.

Edited December 21, 20204 yr by j swift

22 hours ago, j swift said:

Cathy really was a piece of work.  A victim of mental illness and trauma, who coped by becoming dependent on any guy who looked at her twice.  She was always the third wheel in every love triangle, and tried to steal men from Vicky, Pat, and Karen.  She was certainly no match for any of those iconic Llandview women.  As a result she was in at least two relationships where her lover only stayed out of pity.

 

That being said, I am surprised that Ron Carlivati never brought her back.  He was such a fan of the Vicky antagonists (from Allison, to Tina, Echo, and Irene), that it seems natural for Cathy to try to get her hooks into Clint.   

 

Until I caught up on her history, I never realized that she was the reason Pat came to Llandview.  I recall Pat being Vicky's close friend so it is weird that she was originally team-Cathy.  The whole thing about how she escaped kidnapping charges is also an odd detail.  Today, I guess she would have been diagnosed with a brain tumor (the rare type that causes people to plan child abductions). At the time the insanity defense was in the news, so I suspect that was motivation to use it as a device.  However, while Cathy couldn't remember stealing Kevin after she was found, she had clearly planned the kidnapping and was conscious of her efforts to escape, which therefore negates her qualifying as insane.  Obviously, the writer at the time thought enough of the character to devise a way to keep her on the canvas, but subsequent regimes were not as beholden to poor old Cathy. 

 

In hindsight, it was a cruel trick that Vicky's long lost daughter Megan shared a name with Cathy's late child.  Vicky begged Larry not to tell Clint that baby Megan inherited her illness from him.  However, Clint went to father tons of other kids who never developed the same genetic defect.  He also shared DNA with Asa, Bo, Natalie, Joey, Cord, Kevin, and Jessica who never had babies with a similar illness, which makes me second guess Larry's prowess as a genetic specialist...

Wrong husband, it was Joe not Clint!

Oh right, Joe carried the genetic issue (a Roseanne Rosanadana moment).  Although the same point could be made that none of Joey, Kevin, or Duke's kids were affected by their father's DNA issues.  So, I still doubt Larry's expertise on the issue.

Edited December 22, 20204 yr by j swift

 

I was just minding my own business on YouTube. While randomly this video popped up with a recent virtual reunion with  Catherine Hickland (Lindsay) and Hillary B. Smith (Nora) Looks like Catherine and her husband Todd Fisher (Debbie Reynolds son) have their own channel. 

 

 

That was fun, thanks for posting it @Forever8!

 

Which EP was mad at Hillary?  JFP?  I think that lines up with when she was there, and I know HBS has had no issue speaking about how she felt about the show during her reign as EP.

I loved Lindsey on OLTL. She was underrated

I liked Lindsay too. The character was a unique villain and Hickland played her so well.

I haven't watched it all, but Hillary sings Ellen Bethea's praises near the end. I haven't been able to find signs of Bethea online since shortly after Obama's inauguration, when she was a very visible and proud supporter on Facebook or something. I don't know if she's still acting. Daphnee Duplaix was very good (and I think Hillary said in print she was the only Rachel that had the same spirit as Bethea) but EB was still the best for me.

On 1/21/2021 at 8:50 AM, ReddFoxx said:

I liked Lindsay too. The character was a unique villain and Hickland played her so well.

 

Color me three.

I like CH and Lindsay very much. It is unfortunate that the character's immediate family was mostly unpopular performers and characters because it didn't give HER enough grounding in Llanview to survive as a character in the long-run but she had a great run when she was there.

 

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Edited January 24, 20214 yr by DRW50