YIKES I'm sure DM and DW will bring it but this is NOT something I want to see.

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Angie's baby is stillborn. Brot finds an abandoned baby. Jesse decides to tell Angie that baby is hers. The baby is Maya's (the new young, pretty Chandler maid).

Kreizman calls this the most emotional story they've told so far on AMC; it wasn't an easy decision - pros & cons were weighed. They wanted the audience really invested in the happiness and the baby here for impact. Jesse takes Angie to the place they got married in back in 1983. She goes into labor. Something isn't right with the baby. Brot arrives on the scene. Jesse is holding the dead baby when he hears a baby cry. It's a baby that was left in Brot's patrol car. A desperate Jesse decides he has to spare Angie. Morgan and Williams are over the moon about the material. Morgan notes if Angie could see this deception wouldn't have worked. As is, she's in heaven, so happy as Jesse goes through the motions for her sake. There's a scene where Jesse returns to where he buried his child to beg for forgiveness (the cameramen were crying). Jesse wants the dead child to have the name Ellie, so convinces Angie to call the baby somehting else - they decide on Lucy. How long will this secret stay hidden? With David around who knows...

Edited March 24, 201114 yr by alexisfan07

Will Jesse be ousted from his job as chief of police and be sent to prison when it's revealed he's been passing off someone else's child as his own?

I hope so. That's what should and probably would happen to his white counterparts. Again, most of the longterm characters have held a number of jobs, Palmer owned the Chicken Shack, Tad has done everything from make wine to host a TV show and the only thing Erica Kane hasn't done is greet shoppers at WalMart.

While the majority of viewers are not Rylee fans and I understand that most fans did not find Ryan and Greenlee coming face to face to be emotional/riveting/shocking. What I do not understand is you questioning the crew being emotional while watching those scenes and the upcoming A&J scenes. When you work on a soap you spend your work day creating these characters, crafting the stories, and watching the actors make it all come to life on set. The people that work behind the scenes spend long hours every day creating the lives of the people that the viewers tune in to see every day. Doing this they become invested in these characters and their stories, more so than a typical fan would

How exactly is this character assassination? When put in tragic and emotionally taxing situations people tend to not think things through and wind up acting in ways they typically wouldn't and doing things they wouldn't normally do. Imagine it... You bring your wife, who had gone blind so she can have this baby she's carrying, to the place when you got married. Your wife goes in to labor and gives birth to a still born baby Your wife has given up her vision to have this baby. Could you seriously tell her after all she's gone through to deliver this baby that it's stillborn?

As for the comment about the backlash from Jake's death on GH. These stories are planned months in advance and taped weeks in advance. These episodes are shot and in post. The Jake stuff did not air until this past week. With that kind of workflow do you really think what you suggest is possible?

I also highly doubt Maya would get her baby back. A&J would not be put through hell to get more pain and suffering at the end of the story. While it might end up looking like Maya will get the baby back I believe that A&J will prevail. In the big picture, they are legacy characters that are an established family. Who is Maya? A new character that will probably exit in the fall.

Babys on soaps that are born with defects or develop defects are not characters and will never be. They are plot devices. The sudden illness creates a story that provides emotional drama for a short duration, then the child is seldom seen and only pulled back out to be used as an accessory in a scene or as a plot device to spur another emotional story. While the scenario you suggest seems possible, in the long run it would just be A&J dealing with it initially and the sporadically as time went on until its announced the kid is at a special school for his disability or some other nonsense to hide the now disabled character that they have no use for besides being a plot device. Example: Lilly Montgomery.

I think that the writers could have gotten more storyline out of giving them a baby with a medical condition. That's something that can be revisted in the future when the child is older. Killing the baby off doesn't really provide really long term storytelling. (I do think this storyline will drag out, but I'm talking beyond the end of 2011). But giving a child a medical condition could do that, even if it's not revisted again for a while. The only things I can see potentially coming out of killing the baby long term is if Angie/Jesse actually divorce over this and stay divorced for a long time. And I don't see that happening, so I don't think this storyline is going to provide any more long term ramficiations and will probably provide less long term ramifications than Angie/Jesse caring for a child with a medical addition. (Unless you count the damage that will happen to Jesse's character.)

Jesse takes his sweet little baby and buries her in the woods.

I think that the writers could have gotten more storyline out of giving them a baby with a medical condition. That's something that can be revisted in the future when the child is older. Killing the baby off doesn't really provide really long term storytelling. (I do think this storyline will drag out, but I'm talking beyond the end of 2011). But giving a child a medical condition could do that, even if it's not revisted again for a while. The only things I can see potentially coming out of killing the baby long term is if Angie/Jesse actually divorce over this and stay divorced for a long time. And I don't see that happening, so I don't think this storyline is going to provide any more long term ramficiations and will probably provide less long term ramifications than Angie/Jesse caring for a child with a medical addition. (Unless you count the damage that will happen to Jesse's character.)

Don't forget the inevitable damage to Angie (if she decides to keep the baby), Frankie (who?), Cassandra (MIA), Natalia (MIA), Randi (non entity) & Brot (severely compromised).

Pretty much.

So much for audience sympathy.

I shudder to think of what they might have Jesse end up doing. He's already burying the baby himself, without Angie the rest of the family's knowledge. I think that that's kind of gruesome/ICKY within itself, and I'm concerned about what else the writers will have him do. Will he pay people off/try to bribe people to keep the secret, how many lies will he tell, how far will he go to keep his secret? I saw the lenghts the writers had Ricky do to keep his secret from Kendall, and how far they had Madison go to keep the secret about her baby's paternity from Ryan. And neither one of those situations involved good storytelling, so I am concerned about what they will end up doing to Jesse and Brot and whoever else may get involved with this lie.

Edited March 25, 201114 yr by xtr

I shudder to think of what they might have Jesse end up doing. He's already burying the baby himself, without Angie the rest of the family's knowledge. I think that that's kind of gruesome/ICKY within itself, I'm concerned about what else the writers will have him do. Will he pay people off/try to bribe people to keep the secret, how many lies will he tell, how far will he go to keep his secret. I saw the lenghts the writers had Ricky do to keep his secret from Kendall, and how far they had Madison go to keep the secret about her baby's paternity from Ryan. And neither one of those situations involved good storytelling, so I am concerned about what they will end up doing to Jesse and Brot and whoever else may get involved with this lie.

+1.

I shudder to think of what they might have Jesse end up doing. He's already burying the baby himself, without Angie the rest of the family's knowledge. I think that that's kind of gruesome/ICKY within itself, and I'm concerned about what else the writers will have him do. Will he pay people off/try to bribe people to keep the secret, how many lies will he tell, how far will he go to keep his secret? I saw the lenghts the writers had Ricky do to keep his secret from Kendall, and how far they had Madison go to keep the secret about her baby's paternity from Ryan. And neither one of those situations involved good storytelling, so I am concerned about what they will end up doing to Jesse and Brot and whoever else may get involved with this lie.

When Maya comes forward and say she left the baby in the cop car what will Jesse&Brot do? Will they try and frame her for a crime or something?

I shudder to think of what they might have Jesse end up doing. He's already burying the baby himself, without Angie the rest of the family's knowledge. I think that that's kind of gruesome/ICKY within itself, and I'm concerned about what else the writers will have him do. Will he pay people off/try to bribe people to keep the secret, how many lies will he tell, how far will he go to keep his secret? I saw the lenghts the writers had Ricky do to keep his secret from Kendall, and how far they had Madison go to keep the secret about her baby's paternity from Ryan. And neither one of those situations involved good storytelling, so I am concerned about what they will end up doing to Jesse and Brot and whoever else may get involved with this lie.

When Maya comes forward and say she left the baby in the cop car what will Jesse&Brot do? Will they try and frame her for a crime or something?

Will they all end up in the clink, Maya for abandoning baby, Jesse and Brot for taking it? Will Maya catch hell if the windows weren't down? Will Brot catch hell for leeaving the doors unlocked even under the circumstances? A woman can leave a baby at a hospital no questions asked, but not so much in the backseat of a black and white. Many things...

And honestly, if we accept that Jesse let his family think he was dead for 20 years in order to protect them, this is completely in character for him.

But, see, I, for one, have never really accepted that. Ergo, in my eyes, anyway, this latest stunt is like character assassination on top of character assassination.

And honestly, if we accept that Jesse let his family think he was dead for 20 years in order to protect them, this is completely in character for him.

But, see, I, for one, have never really accepted that.

And it doesn't help that Jesse said he let Angie and Frankie believe he was dead because he was afraid that anyone near him would be in danger yet he immediately gets a woman pregnant and spends the entire 20 years with them... it wasn't OK to put Angie and Frankie in harms way but it was OK to put Natalia and her mother in harms way? Or he found a way to be with Natalia and her mother but he didn't bother to find a way to be with Angie and Frankie?

And Jesse saying that a white woman with a black child was a cover for a black man as if that unit would go unnoticed was the height of stupidity and made Frankie and Angie look like idiots for swallowing that load of malarkey. Angie and Frankie were by far better candidates for helping Jesse blend in and not stick out.

Edited March 25, 201114 yr by Sleepy

Jesse should have stayed dead, IMO. I don't care what anyone says (I don't curr what NOBODY say!!), there was absolutely no plausible way to bring Jesse back to life. And there are tons of back-from-the-dead stories that I feel the exact same way about, but this one frustrated me so much because I really liked the idea of Angie and Frankie coming to Pine Valley and being a very close and protective mother-son force to be reckoned with at PVH and around town in general. Of course I've loved having Jesse around for the most part (in the family stuff), but Debbi and Cornelius would have been enough for me, provided they were written for and treated correctly, which -- for anyone on any soap -- is the exception, not the role. So, basically, IDGAF.

If it were up to me this is what I would do:

Have Angie begin to uncover the truth. Jesse begs Frankie to help him keep things quiet, and says he has always felt guilty for having to fake his death and leaving Angie all those years, leaving Frankie without a father, and this is his way of trying to make up for all that. Frankie is torn, but ultimately he confirms Angie's suspicions. Jesse takes all the responsibility for what happened, and he goes to prison. Angie's sight returns just as she is going to say goodbye.

After about four or five months, Jacob arrives in Pine Valley, after Cassandra returns and doesn't want anything to do with him. He has a small child, a boy, by a new girlfriend, and Angie tries to help Cassandra and Jacob patch up their relationship. She also still has some feelings for Jacob, but struggles more than ever with the memory of Jesse. His little boy also brings out mixed emotions for both Angie and Frankie.

That's interesting Carl, it never crossed my mind to send Jesse to jail (for a spell with continued appearances) and bring Jacob to town. What a neat little insurance policy Darnell's got with that, and it would genuinely surprise me if they actually considered using it. Did they establish the Patty Duke thing for the newer fans when Cassie came to town, I don't remember.

Again so much for audience sympathy.