DK may have been too young for HW. He was hired to up demos but, in the process, ended up changing GL too much yet not enough trying to hold current viewers while at the same time bring in much younger viewers. He needed an EP like Ed Scott to groom him and demontrate that a balance can be struck.

The same thing happened over at ATWT but this time with Goutman and Co calling the shots. DK made the first half of the final year of ATWT decent and I give him credit for that.

According to Ravenbeauty AMC is gone. Announcement is coming. Take it for what its worth.

http://www.voy.com/191220/7098.html

According to Ravenbeauty AMC is gone. Announcement is coming. Take it for what its worth.

http://www.voy.com/191220/7098.html

This didn't come out of the 'meeting' that took place last week, that only she had a source at, did it? LOL

I wouldn't put any stock in anything the above referenced twit has to say.... although it does seem rather bleak. I echo what R Sinclair and a few others have said.... in my mind for the most part this show was canceled long ago. It will be a sad day when we do get the confirmation, but it would appear that day is coming alot sooner than I predicted. I just hope if it is to end by September, it is an ending that does the show, actors and its few fans remaining justice.

What a waste of time moving this show was. To only last 18 months? Those poor actors who uprooted their lives for it....

This didn't come out of the 'meeting' that took place last week, that only she had a source at, did it? LOL

She is putting this out there just so she can be one of many claiming she had the inside information to pump up her reputation. She is clueless as far as I am concerned. Just another propaganda spreading twit praying on the internet fandom.

Edited March 23, 201114 yr by Adam

I couldn't have said it better about the move. Adam.

Especially in Vincent Irizarry and Alicia Minshew's cases. Both of them were in NYC and raising a family. They moved for basically nothing. I feel sorry for them the most.

What a waste of time moving this show was. To only last 18 months? Those poor actors who uprooted their lives for it....

THIS.

Whatever happens, I truly, deeply, madly, sincerely hope, wish and pray that the people who made these actors move end up on the unemployment line. If the actors are going to suffer for these bad decisions, JHC, BF and Sweeney should have to do the same.

What a waste of time moving this show was. To only last 18 months? Those poor actors who uprooted their lives for it....

Poor actors? What a strange way of thinking about it. The move gave them steady work for 18 months and probably more. They got lucky that ABC tried to save AMC with that move. Plus, the actors didn't have to make the move. They could have opted out of their contracts and be unemployed like tons of other American workers.

Edited March 23, 201114 yr by Ann_SS

Well, okay. LOL. And the YTD negative is pretty bad. But there have been recent weeks where OLTL has the lowest viewership numbers.

Actually OLTL started an upswing last October and over the last 5 months only fallen to last in viewership 5 weeks:

Nov 22-26 2010 6. OLTL 2,357,000 (+6,000/-104,000)

Dec 20-24 2010 6. OLTL 2,355,000 (-134,000/+101,000)

Jan 3-7 2011 6. OLTL 2,371,000 (-474,000/-179,000)

Jan 10-14 2011 6. OLTL 2,681,000 (+310,000/+251,000)

Feb 14-18 2011 6. OLTL 2,346,000 (-346,000/-276,000)

In the 18-49 demo, OLTL has averaged 4th since March 2010. AMC has averaged last place in 18-49 demos since ATWT went off the air.

An insider on DD even before DC even posted had this info ABC was working on 2012 season without AMC. Raven IS a twit so suggest the fall season change was a recent meeting as the contract with the affiliates alone take forever to re-do.

Edited March 23, 201114 yr by TeamEric

This didn't come out of the 'meeting' that took place last week, that only she had a source at, did it? LOL

I remember around 2008 she kept on saying that MCE was always about to leave the show. Guess she was just off by a few years.

She is putting this out there just so she can be one of many claiming she had the inside information to pump up her reputation. She is clueless as far as I am concerned. Just another propaganda spreading twit praying on the internet fandom.

Exactly! This girl doesn't know diddly squat and she's just acting like she does so that when it is announced she can be like "Told ya'll!... ".

Edited March 23, 201114 yr by AllmyDaysatGH

I couldn't have said it better about the move. Adam.

Especially in Vincent Irizarry and Alicia Minshew's cases. Both of them were in NYC and raising a family. They moved for basically nothing. I feel sorry for them the most.

Well, I wouldn't say "for nothing". I have no idea how much these people make, but I bet it's a lot more than the average person. If someone asked me to move to LA for a year, to make (lets say) $200,000, I would sure as hell think it's worth my time. Anyway, AM never really moved, did she? I thought her husband lived and worked in NY still? People were always claiming that she would leave this summer to go back to NY.

I think the move could have worked if there had been a real effort to actually improve the show. I also don't understand why they moved only to have to spend more money, because they didn't have the right storage for the sets, or whatever it was. Why was the person who kept making these mistakes never replaced? Clearly someone at ABC wanted to save AMC, but why was there never any effort to get smarter budget control?

Who is this Ravenbeauty and why is she so insufferable?

I have been telling you in nearly every column I've written in the past 6 weeks that AMC was a dead ship. I even prefaced it the first time, by saying that I know you have heard these rumors in the past, but that this was a real fire and no smoke.

Pumping her own ego...

In addition, I told you about a meeting that was held a few weeks back where they were brainstorming on ways to save AMC and OLTL.

Pumping her ego some more...

I told you that Tyler Christopher was out last Monday in my 3/14/11 column

More ego pumping. "I told you so! I told you so!"

I am getting confirmation that AMC is gone.

I hope I am wrong.

I was just given further confirmation by a surprise source.

let's hope they have had a change of heart

Anything can happen in this industry as you know. For now, it looks incredibly bleak.

LoL, how many loopholes is she going to give herself so she can say she was right no matter what happens?

"It's confirmed! AMC is canceled! But it's not final! I might be wrong! But I'm not! This is confirmed! AMC is canceled! Let's hope not!"

So ridiculous.

Ravenbeauty is sh!t on a cracker. Keep it moving, folks.

Poor actors? What a strange way of thinking about it. The move gave them steady work for 18 months and probably more. They got lucky that ABC tried to save AMC with that move. The actors didn't have to make the move. They could have opted out of their contracts and be unemployed like tons of other American workers.

I get what you're saying but I consider these actors to be just like those tons of other American workers. They do the best they can while profiteers and incompetents make decisions that [!@#$%^&*] with their lives. If a textile company chooses to move their operations from NYC to Mississippi, sure the workers have a choice: either uproot their lives or stay in the old town and try to find a job waiting tables. The ones who choose to move do so because they think and hope that that decision is going to pay off for them. They're tying their fortunes to their employer. Unfortunately their employer was a self-serving, narcissistic idiot.