Members asafi Posted July 1, 2024 Members Share Posted July 1, 2024 I think Brenda epperson was a great recast, I loved her version of Ashley, more gentle and warm.. I'm not crazy about Nikki marrying victor so soon after josh's death. I mean.. didn't she care for the man at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 1, 2024 Author Members Share Posted July 1, 2024 I didn't have a problem with it because to me that's just Nikki. I liked Brenda a lot, even if it did feel like they lost interest in her once she and Victor split up. I know she didn't have the edge Eileen's Ashley had, but that was probably fading by the time Eileen left anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asafi Posted July 1, 2024 Members Share Posted July 1, 2024 Brenda had really great chemistry with so many cast members.. don diamond, Beth mainland, Eric Braden, heather tom, jerry Douglas and Peter, jess Walton. I loved her version of Ashley. softer. more gentle. and very likable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoldRestless Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 On today's show Martin told Traci he downloaded her book "Echoes of the Past" and Traci said it was a very personal story about her and Ashley. Is that made up or was it ever discussed back in 1988-1989 when she worked with Tim on the book? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 It seemed Bill Bell was starting to lose interest in the Abbotts around 1987, first with Traci role being reduced then the Ashley and Jack recasts which threw off the balance of the family. BE Ashley feels like a totally different character compared to ED original recipe Ashley. I might be way off about this, but with Traci role being reduced, BE Ashley seemed like she was both Abbott daughters as one character. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoldRestless Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 Replying to myself Please register in order to view this content I found a blog with the answer. This apparently was true! https://glmanny.wordpress.com/2020/06/22/stolen-lockets-and-broken-hearts-by-traci-abbott/ More info on other fictional Y&R books: https://glmanny.wordpress.com/books-about-guiding-light/fake-books-on-the-young-and-the-restless/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 2, 2024 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 Fascinating. I didn't realize Bill redid the Leslie and Lorie book plot with Ashley and Traci. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRfan23 Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 New in English, 3/25/87! Please register in order to view this content Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joseph Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 Damn! Tough One! I remember the name being mentioned multiple times but I really don't remember the plot line! Please register in order to view this content True! And somehow when Traci Visited in 1993, She was The Bitchy One! Please register in order to view this content You are all right she wasn't Great, But She Certainly had her moments! This scene is pretty impressive if you consider it was quite early in her Run! As For Dina, Bill Bell certainly had A Love/Hate relationship with that character! It's funny how she was so human in the 1980's with some villainous touches but still sympathetic! Then she was reintroduced in 1991-92 as A Huge B*tch! Then they tried to make her a mature heroine in 1996... It's just strangely inconsistent! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asafi Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 Doug Davidson was so handsome back then.. victor and Nikki boring as usual.. loved Mary! the meddlesome mom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 Thanks for the 87 episode @YRfan23 The seldom seen Newman dining room. Wonder why they decided to use it?- as often they would be just having a coffee/juice in the living room post breakfast. Maybe so Nikki could have her fall down the stairs w/o being seen. A 4 and a half minute opening scene-no way would that happen today. Nice to see Casey-a pity she didn't stay around as a recurring doctor/talk to. And John and Carol turning up at the very en, always nice to be surprised. I always wondered how Nikki would have these elaborate hair do's day to day. Did she have a hairdresser squirreled away upstairs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 2, 2024 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 That scene of Nikki on the ground saying she has too much to do reminds me of the scene with Vanessa on the floor in front of her couch and willing herself to get off the ground. If only Vanessa had waited a little longer, she too might have had a miracle cure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Broderick Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 I never understood (at the time) what was going on with Traci Abbott in 1987. First she announced she would finish her college degree in California, then she left that summer, and was removed from contract. It seemed as though Bell was done with her. By the fall, she was back on the show (and under contract again). I never knew if Bell removed Traci from Genoa City in order to facilitate a Brad/Lauren hook-up, or if he just got tired of Traci because he was tired of her, and then changed his mind a few months later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yrfan1983 Posted July 2, 2024 Members Share Posted July 2, 2024 Beth M did a podcast about 10 years ago where she said the first time she left the show (‘87) was the only time that she left of her own choice. She wasn’t specific about why she chose to quit in ‘87. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted July 3, 2024 Members Share Posted July 3, 2024 I have no memory of Traci first book being about her and Ashley. I didn't like how Bill Bell wrote BE Ashley and Traci as romantic rivals. During ED original run he kept Ashley and Traci in separate orbits as far as their romances and romantic rivalries went (Ashley/Victor/Nikki, Traci/Danny/Lauren, Traci/Brad/Lauren) and Ashley looked out for Traci and was protective of her. I also think Bill Bell realized that Don Diamont was no match acting-wise for ED so that's why he had Brad original storyline pursue Traci and not Ashley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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