15 hours ago, lilyredd said:

Thanks for posting this, I hadn’t seen this uploaded before. The episode in some ways epitomizes what I loved and hated about Marland (especially 90s Marland) -layered stories, clearly planned stories, community, but awful couples and too much politeness. 

So true...all of the above...Marland, like Long and everyone else had their strength and their weaknesses...talk about chemistyless couples..Andy and Courtney, who looked like a 40 year old but was supposed to be a hot early 20 model..Iva and John..(the only other character who had less chemistry with him was Mama Snyder..).and while they have their fans...Dolan and Holmes always made Tom and Margo..dour and dull, not the fun they were before. Watching old clips when Iva first came on she was more interesting...fiesty and damaged and she and Mama Snyder (who I must admit I disliked) had a bit of a more contentious relationship..so this whole "I realized Mama loved me as much as her bio kids" seems like a rewrite of their relationship. I liked Iva the gubby fighter who felt an outsider in her family more then the sad sack dope she became. 

Thought I love his names...Gavin Krueger (who I must have been the only one on earth who say him as sexy... ) and Phillipe VanDoren!!  

4 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

So true...all of the above...Marland, like Long and everyone else had their strength and their weaknesses...talk about chemistyless couples..Andy and Courtney, who looked like a 40 year old but was supposed to be a hot early 20 model. 

I think you mean Julie, no?

On 3/23/2022 at 5:54 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

I think you mean Julie, no?

No...Courtney, with her 40 year old hairdo..had her pictures taken by Andy, and an agent saw her and just HAD to have her as a model...for what..I don't know...Walmart fashions? Andy was not obsessed with her as he was with Julie.

6 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

No...Courtney, with her 40 year old hairdo..had her pictures taken by Andy, and an agent saw her and just HAD to have her as a model...for what..I don't know...Walmart fashions? Andy was not obsessed with her as he was with Julie.

Maybe I wasn't really watching much during that time because I don't remember Courtney trying to model.

6 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

No...Courtney, with her 40 year old hairdo..had her pictures taken by Andy, and an agent saw her and just HAD to have her as a model...for what..I don't know...Walmart fashions? Andy was not obsessed with her as he was with Julie.

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9 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Maybe I wasn't really watching much during that time because I don't remember Courtney trying to model.

Courtney was forgettable. She was very annoying. The only time I found her interesting was when plaster was falling on her face thanks to Hans.😂

Hayley Barr was better on GL.

The only thing I remember about Courtney is her eating disorder.

Courtney didn't bother me like I know that she bothered others but there were episodes that I missed out on watching the first go 'round. 

The fact that she didn't really have a family rooted on the show didn't help to cement her character to the canvas either. She was Sean's younger sister and Sean himself wasn't truly anchored as a character himself. He was kind of dating nuFrannie, which just wasn't enough of an anchor for the character. Then the character of Sean got a recast. That Baxter connection was kind of unmoored.

If you compare Sean to Kirk Anderson, you will see the difference between an anchored character from an un-anchored character. Right away, Kirk became integrated with Lucinda Walsh and Iva Snyder and the Snyder family, who had been on the show for several years by then, same actors, no recasts.

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by DramatistDreamer

 

If already posted, I apologize.

12 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

 

If already posted, I apologize.

Oh wow...how did he get Patricia??

I know he said on Facebook he had great guests coming up.

14 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Courtney didn't bother me like I know that she bothered others but there were episodes that I missed out on watching the first go 'round. 

The fact that she didn't really have a family rooted on the show didn't help to cement her character to the canvas either. She was Sean's younger sister and Sean himself wasn't truly anchored as a character himself. He was kind of dating nuFrannie, which just wasn't enough of an anchor for the character. Then the character of Sean got a recast. That Baxter connection was kind of unmoored.

If you compare Sean to Kirk Anderson, you will see the difference between an anchored character from an un-anchored character. Right away, Kirk became integrated with Lucinda Walsh and Iva Snyder and the Snyder family, who had been on the show for several years by then, same actors, no recasts.

I hated Sean. He was dull as dirt and Burke Moses sucked in the roll. Glad they got her real husband to play Sean but he didn't have much of a story.

Edited March 27, 20223 yr by Soapsuds

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Oh wow...how did he get Patricia??

I know he said on Facebook he had great guests coming up.

I hated Sean. He was dull as dirt and Burke Moses sucked in the roll. Glad they got her real husband to play Sean but he didn't have much of a story.

The first Sean was goofy and the recast was dour, all he did was chastise Andy for not taking care of Courtney. I was looking past the character by then.

I came to love Andy and Courtney as a couple - especially when each matured and had a more adult grasp of their personal issues. I loved their growth and was definitely rooting for them. Their Christmas 1992 wedding made me very happy.

Doug Marland died a few months afterwards and I think his portrayal of marriage between two young people would have been handled better then it ultimately was. 

@Soapsuds Who is he?

5 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

@Soapsuds Who is he?

Lucinda's hot butler Matthew played by Paul Hartel.

7 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Lucinda's hot butler Matthew played by Paul Hartel.

Whose name was actually Steven but Lucinda stated that she called all her butlers "Matthew", so that became the name he answered to while at the Walsh mansion.