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It's always exciting when a "new" Marland-era episode pops up on YouTube. I'm still hoping that one day we'll see the late-May 1986 episode where Frannie's memory suddenly returns during the Doug Cummings murder trial as well as the Labor Day 1986 episode of Chris Hughes's birth. As always, thanks to everyone who recorded, saved, and posted episodes.
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I think I disagree with that assumption. I have no inside info at all, but if they were using Rattray as a placeholder, why go to the trouble of dramatically shifting Lily's character? With Rattray's arrival in 1990, Lily immediately became a semi-deceptive, man-hungry business woman. Since Jon Hensley had left the show, there was no plan to reunite the couple, so there was clear opportunity to take Lily (and her new portrayer) into new worlds/storylines. Also, I think I remember that Lily had some facial damage/reconstruction in the Derek explosion aftermath, so TPTB made a real effort to move on once Martha was Hollywood-bound. Maybe later on there was an eventual move in late 1992 to return to Martha, but I don't think it was the initial idea.
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I agree -- the Doug Marland era is the best and I would recommend beginning with the very sparse late-1985 episodes available on YouTube (I think there are only 5 or 6 episodes from Oct/Nov/Dec). There are a LOT of episodes from 1986/87 (the best era IMO) and then a very healthy number of episodes from 1988 thru 1993 (Marland died in March of 1993). I stayed with the show until early 1994, but the quality of the writing just never recovered for me.
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While Heather Rattray was a bit of a shock when she first took over the role of Lily (she was much taller than Byrne and Lily was suddenly being written as a semi-ruthless business woman), I came to like her very much. She played Lily as more mature and sophisticated than Byrne did -- which came in handy during the very traumatic Angel storyline. I was sad when Rattray left the role. Once Byrne returned in 1993, Lily immediately went back to being petulant and sour.
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Yes, Marland came into the show with a tight, well-plotted 3-year bible and 1986/87 were fantastic. Unfortunately, the long 1988 writer's strike (and multiple cast changes) upset that momentum and by the time Marland returned in the fall of 1988, the show was in trouble. It took him most of 1989 to rebuild the show, which culminated in another great year, 1990.
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That was my thought: that Neal would not be killed, but simply injured and then eventually leave the canvas. MKA signed with the show specifically because it was a 6-month deal, but her unexpected chemistry with Lucinda/Hubbard was so great that I think Marland would have recognized that the story needed to shift and that the audience HAD to see Lucinda know/accept Neal as her sister while Neal was alive and not after her death. That emotional connection between long-lost sisters was the real center of the entire story, not Royce and the mystery of his multiples.
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I remember Janice being one of the few bright spots on the show during the second half of 1993. With Marland's and Morrisons's deaths, Joseph Breen's illness, Glynis John's miscasting, and the mishandling of the Neal Alcott murder mystery (I still think that if Marland had lived he would have convinced Mary Kay Adams to stay), ATWT was definitely suffering. Janice was (at least at the beginning) a three dimensional villain who was unpredictable and fun to watch. Holly Cate gave her a sense of humanity which made her "evilness" interesting.
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I was excited when Ben Jorgenson was cast as Chris Hughes in 1999. Chris was SORASed and was now college-aged. Jorgenson was a strong actor with soap creds and his arrival promised that a significant story was in the making which would bring Bob and Kim back to front-burner status. But both Chris and Ben fizzled (I don't know why) and he was gone within the year. I remember being very disappointed with (as usual) the writing.
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My usual downloader had a problem as well, but this link worked for me: https://vidfly.ai/youtube-video-downloader/ I agree -- videos and entire channels can be taken down from YouTube without any notice. Knowing this, over the years I've downloaded every Marland-era episode (the only period I wish to keep) that I can find. Currently, I have just over 800. I'm glad I did this because many episodes have already disappeared from YouTube.
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Yes, that (very beautifully written) scene between Kim and Seth is from the August 2, 1988 episode. Other than a "Story by Douglas Marland" in the end credits, there is no writing team listed (for obvious reasons -- no one wants to be known as a scab writer.) I once had a conversation with the writer BK Perlman who wrote for "Ryan's Hope" in the mid-80s. Prior to being hired as an RH writer in 1983 she had actually been a scab writer for RH during the 1981 writer's strike. (She, of course, used a different pseudonym during that time.) Later, when producers were looking to fill their writing staff in 1983, they remembered her and her work and officially hired her. I'm not certain if others in the writer's room were aware of her past?
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For a short period in 1985/86, Marland positioned Heather, Frannie, Betsy, and Sierra as gal pals (same ages, most pursuing college degrees). It felt very natural and there was definite chemistry between all four. I wish those relationships had strengthened, but each character had her own storyline which eventually drove them away from that core group.
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