14 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

The funny thing is that, in the episode that I posted above Tom actually uses it with Frannie and I know Barbara used it once with Paul.  Was Marland the writer who started using "kiddo"?

 

I don't know, but I loved it when Kim used it b/c it usually meant you were in deep trouble. 

1 hour ago, NothinButAttitude said:

 

I don't know, but I loved it when Kim used it b/c it usually meant you were in deep trouble. 

 

I've seen Kim use it once or twice in an endearing way.

It's kind of cool to see episodes that aired on the same day decades ago.  I'm not sure whether this has been posted in the past but I saw this courtesy of the WLS blog and thought that it is certainly worthy of a viewing.

 

 

I've never seen this episode before. Hopefully there's  more unseen stuff out there.

In just this one episode so much detail is fleshed out about the story.

Ellen going up against Judge Lowell, Don's dilemma in taking on the case etc.

Interesting that Ellen stated that Dan was 4 and a half years old and Don was 27 - seems Irna's SORASING was well underway.

I guess Don had to be aged because Bob was and they wanted an older child for Dan to be able to bring more to the role.

 

The restaurant scene didn't even have extras, but the background noise and camera angles made it look realistic, whereas today the more elaborate restaurant scenes come off worse with empty tables and a few extras wondering around.

I still say that ATWT has had more IRL couples than any other daytime soap in recent memory.

From the Twitter dialogues-

 

Last night my sweetheart surprised me w tix to see @Yankees v Angels. 20 years ago he proposed to me at Yankee Stadium. On our first date we played catch in the street. And he’s a Boston fan. So: this is true love. ⚾️♥️💙 Thank you, Scotty! pic.twitter.com/bluCojwGQS

— Maura West (@MauraWest) April 25, 2019

They're coming up on about 20 years together now, right? Good for them. 💖

For some reason, I thought this episode occurred at least two years before 1983.  I was so young, I still wasn't fully comprehending what went was happening on this show during this time period but more than anything else, Barbara, dressed in red, running in that bullring was embedded in my memory as a little kid. 

Those scenes look as if they'd been shot at a completely different time and placed into the episode, which, as a whole appears to lack cohesion.

The "Spanish" sets and streetscapes look good.  The Segovia music toes the line between fitting and a bit 'on the nose', the fight scenes don't look too bad. What really looks bad is Maggie's office (someone needed to pick a theme and stick to it).

Some of the dialogue in this episode is not great and the director needed a good talking to about the overacting in some of these scenes.  

I do like the scenes between Lyla and Maggie and some things never change with John and Margo bickering about Margo's relationship with Tom.  Interesting to see Maggie tell Lyla how she thinks Margo hurt Tom and then wants him back (that would be a recurring practice with Margo in the 1980s).  

Interesting to see Craig (also somewhat overacting) barking at Steve, trying to assert himself as Betsey's husband because in less than three years, Craig would get a taste of the bitterness that Steve had to swallow, pining for a seemingly lost love who he should've married and who is stuck in a loveless marriage with someone else.

Still, Barbara in that bullring is iconic! And little Jonathan Bower!

 

 

 @DramatistDreamer that was one of the episodes released on DVD.  

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

 @DramatistDreamer that was one of the episodes released on DVD.  

 

I was actually looking for Ginny Ortiz (who I only vaguely remember from 3-2-1 Contact), who is listed in the credits but doesn't seem to appear in this episode at all but I watched the episode anyway.  Ortiz must've appeared in the previous episode.

In the above clip, what actor was playing Donald Hughes?  Was it Richard Holland?

 

Also, today was May 1 (the birthday of Penny).  I am sure that she was sent some flowers from Dr. Bob Hughes

42 minutes ago, danfling said:

In the above clip, what actor was playing Donald Hughes?  Was it Richard Holland?

 

Also, today was May 1 (the birthday of Penny).  I am sure that she was sent some flowers from Dr. Bob Hughes

Yes that was Richard Holland. He bcame a soap writer? or is that a different Richard Holland.

Looking at the 1983 episode I thought Anne Sward could have played Penny.She evoked Rosemary Prinz.

maggie's office had nothing on the hideous fahion boutique.

A little of  daffy Lisa goes a long way...

6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Yes that was Richard Holland. He bcame a soap writer? or is that a different Richard Holland.

Looking at the 1983 episode I thought Anne Sward could have played Penny.She evoked Rosemary Prinz.

maggie's office had nothing on the hideous fahion boutique.

A little of  daffy Lisa goes a long way...

 

Someone in the comments section said "No wonder Eileen Fulton  decided to leave the show...".

 

Still, with the sometimes stilted dialogue, the occasional overacting, Meg Ryan's "prairie dress", the gaudy decor of Maggie's office and the boutique and the obvious lack of cohesion between the Spanish scenes and the Oakdale scenes, that 1983 episode was still better than 90% of what the last 12 years of ATWT had to offer.

Edited May 2, 20196 yr by DramatistDreamer

I loved Ariel's reaction to Cricket and Ernie's conversation as she walks over to the telephone to call Karen.  The look on her face -- "You two are the most boring people on EARTH!" -- is priceless.

 

I mean, even the way she rips up that paper was a nice commentary on the ridiculousness of that entire scene with those two.  (Ernie's worried about soiling an unwed teen mom's virtue?  Really?)

Edited May 2, 20196 yr by Khan

2 hours ago, Khan said:

I loved Ariel's reaction to Cricket and Ernie's conversation as she walks over to the telephone to call Karen.  The look on her face -- "You two are the most boring people on EARTH!" -- is priceless.

 

I mean, even the way she rips up that paper was a nice commentary on the ridiculousness of that entire scene with those two.  (Ernie's worried about soiling an unwed teen mom's virtue?  Really?)

 

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

 

Speaking of boutiques and fashion, don't judge me but...

I kind of liked Cricket's big poufy-sleeved dress for the time period (not for today, of course).  It was unabashedly 'Big 80s' but at least they didn't shy away from making a statement. And somehow, against all odds, Lisa Loring was able to pull it off! Audacious in a way that only big 80s can be.

 

I wish I could find the previous episode.  Hey @Soapsuds, that 1983 episode, was it stand alone in the collection, or was the previous day and the day after included too?

7 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Someone in the comments section said "No wonder Eileen Fulton  decided to leave the show...".

 

Still, with the sometimes stilted dialogue, the occasional overacting, Meg Ryan's "prairie dress", the gaudy decor of Maggie's office and the boutique and the obvious lack of cohesion between the Spanish scenes and the Oakdale scenes, that 1983 episode was still better than 90% of what the last 12 years of ATWT had to offer.

Agree DD it was still a pretty solid enjoyable episode. I don't find Maggie's office so bad. Compared to the ugly office sets EON had around this time. Betsy looks like she should be on Little House On The Prairie 😂 John & Margo worked so well as father & daughter. The stuff with Cricket & Ernie is so silly. Both Ariel & Karen are so fascinating to watch. I wish there was more of them online. The remote in Spain is fun. Poor Barbara, James was always abusing her. No wonder she changed.