29 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

I hear about the unabortion all the time...would love to hear what the whole storyline was played out....I imagine it had to be much like GL and Brandon is Amanda's bio-dad...soemthing that could have happened but was not what we saw on screen...

No actually it was impossible. She wrote that when Erica had her abortion her doctor took the fetus & implanted in his wife's womb & she carried the baby to term & he was born & Greg & his wife raised him as their child. 

2 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

I hear about the unabortion all the time...would love to hear what the whole storyline was played out....I imagine it had to be much like GL and Brandon is Amanda's bio-dad...soemthing that could have happened but was not what we saw on screen...

It couldn't have happened even off-screen, because, AFAIK, it is medically and scientifically impossible for an aborted fetus to survive beyond the abortion, let alone be implanted onto another fetus and survive full-term.  AMC officially went all sci-fi with that storyline.

Is this an abortion storyline I don't remember from ATWT or am I in the wrong thread?

4 minutes ago, adrnyc said:

Is this an abortion storyline I don't remember from ATWT or am I in the wrong thread?

No, I'm sorry. It's an abortion from All My Children. We sorta began to have a meta thread about soaps in general. In talking about things that happened to ATWT we also began to talk about things that happened to a lot of other soaps, too. 

1 hour ago, adrnyc said:

Is this an abortion storyline I don't remember from ATWT or am I in the wrong thread?

Everyone's favorite befuddled poster rambles in every thread. The All My Children unabortion has no ties to Oakdale.

Ah, thanks. Still, the idea of an "Unabortion storyline" is definitely fascinating. Sorta like dying by falling UP the stairs. 😆

I don't want to start or continue a prolonged fight, but I will say that while there is nothing wrong with having an all-purpose conversation about soaps, I think that it goes against the years of show-specific conversation that these show-specific threads have had.

Anyway, I watched the Jan. 29, 1980, episode, getting a kick out of Dee & Ian living it up at the Italian disco. And "Rise," of all songs, playing.

10 hours ago, adrnyc said:

 

For every ABC actor the casting people were forced to hire from TPTB, they hired seasoned, well known NYC theater actors for other roles - Rose's father, the woman who helps steal a child for Craig/Rosanna, for instance. Mitzi is another seasoned NYC character stage actress. They had a lot of great actors on the show doing great work.

But I really enjoyed the late 90s. David Steinbeck having plastic surgery and returning (although going about 3 months too long) was clever and fun to watch a younger Stenbeck terrorize the cast. All the baby switching/who's the daddy storylines were fun and all came out at pretty much the same time - I thought that was a hoot. 

The racist cop, the burning of the church, and everything that came out of that was must-see-TV for me.

 

 

The NY shows definitely had better access to talent, and they would pop up in different roles. Phyllis Somerville (who played Annabelle Fettle, the baby broker) was also in episodes in '94 when Mike and Ro went to Montana, and GL in '90 as a mouthy attendant at a Spa Blake went to. Who knows how many the shows hired over the years. But I'll always know Sara Ramirez as Hannah, who married Jack and Carly in Montana.  

1 hour ago, adrnyc said:

Ah, thanks. Still, the idea of an "Unabortion storyline" is definitely fascinating. Sorta like dying by falling UP the stairs. 😆

As I said sorry we were being OT.

And, yes, fascinating is one word to use for it. Many people consider the UnAbortion storyline that Megan McTavish wrote at AMC to literally be the single worst thing to ever happen on any soap. And, so, Kendall & Bianca suddenly had a grown brother getting into everything for a while!!! 

55 minutes ago, Franko said:

I don't want to start or continue a prolonged fight, but I will say that while there is nothing wrong with having an all-purpose conversation about soaps, I think that it goes against the years of show-specific conversation that these show-specific threads have had.

I wonder if it's happening because there is a need for it but no place for it. 

As to whether there's going to be a fight, clueless. 

41 minutes ago, P.J. said:

 

The NY shows definitely had better access to talent, and they would pop up in different roles. Phyllis Somerville (who played Annabelle Fettle, the baby broker) was also in episodes in '94 when Mike and Ro went to Montana, and GL in '90 as a mouthy attendant at a Spa Blake went to. Who knows how many the shows hired over the years. But I'll always know Sara Ramirez as Hannah, who married Jack and Carly in Montana.  

@P.J.

This is what I found for Somerville in my searches for her soap roles...

PHYLLIS SOMERVILLE     

THE GUIDING LIGHT    Spa Attendant    1990

ALL MY CHILDREN     Velma            Unknown Year

LOVING               Mrs. Swan          1992

                                    Grace     1994

AS THE WORLD TURNS    Alice     1994

ONE LIFE TO LIVE     Eloise       Unknown Year

               Charlotte Stonecliff    1997-98

GUIDING LIGHT        Mrs. Beasley     1998

AS THE WORLD TURNS     Annabelle Fettle         2004

 

Her role on THE OUTSIDERS was great.

11 hours ago, Franko said:

I don't want to start or continue a prolonged fight, but I will say that while there is nothing wrong with having an all-purpose conversation about soaps, I think that it goes against the years of show-specific conversation that these show-specific threads have had.

Anyway, I watched the Jan. 29, 1980, episode, getting a kick out of Dee & Ian living it up at the Italian disco. And "Rise," of all songs, playing.

My fault as I asked the question about the unabortion and I heard the unfortunate answer! I am glad McTrash got no where near ATWT or we would have the Grandpa Hughes collaborating with Nazis and Judge Lowell running a sweat shop behind the Wade Bookstore and he and Lisa had an affair and James was their son....

I love that "Rise"was playing...Poor Ian will be sorry he was rising later that night!

 

On 2/25/2024 at 4:57 PM, vetsoapfan said:

Having watched the show my entire life, I was quite partial to the Lowell/Stewart family, and Ellen was its remaining lynchpin. I was furious when TPTB dropped the character without any reason given on-screen (at the time, anyway). I had to admit, however, that with almost all of her family gone, and with Ellen a widow, I was surprised she lasted as long as she did.

The Stewarts weren't my favorites but they were part of the show..I never got the whole Hughes vs. Stewart thing that Sheffer tried to press down our throats...the two families were friends and allies for years, and Susan wasnt even a Stewart anymore! They could indeed have brought Dee back and Annie's kids.

I do like what Wheeler did with GL in the end...characters like Van and Matt and Mindy made sporadic appearances and then Danny and Michelle.  I hate how soaps write someone off the show never to be heard from again as if they have no ties to their old family and friends. Ellen would have been a character like that..during the dumb Emily and Tom affair she should have been there, reigniting her "feud" with Lisa...."Oh, it's funny you call my granddaughter a slut when the word was practically invented for you!" 

 

On 2/26/2024 at 7:51 PM, adrnyc said:

Ah, thanks. Still, the idea of an "Unabortion storyline" is definitely fascinating. Sorta like dying by falling UP the stairs. 😆

The death-by-falling-up-the-stairs myth is firmly ingrained in soap opera lore, but never actually happened. Liz Stewart on ATWT was seriously injured when she fell while running up the stairs. Critics have spun this as she "fell up the staircase," which of course is absurd and never happened. Folks just took pleasure in mocking the soaps.

14 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

Ellen would have been a character like that..during the dumb Emily and Tom affair she should have been there, reigniting her "feud" with Lisa...."Oh, it's funny you call my granddaughter a slut when the word was practically invented for you!" 

I always found it amusing how long and hard Ellen would and could hold onto a grudge, LOL.

Edited February 28, 20241 yr by vetsoapfan

23 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

I always found it amusing how long and hard Ellen would and would hold onto a grudge, LOL.

It was great to see that type of consistency in a character, tbh. Even in the 1980s, when I started watching as a child, there’d be these warm holiday gatherings and Ellen would be there and Lisa would enter the kitchen and flounce by and Ellen would shoot such a look at her.🤣 Just the memory of these encounters sends me.😂

32 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

It was great to see that type of consistency in a character, tbh. Even in the 1980s, when I started watching as a child, there’d be these warm holiday gatherings and Ellen would be there and Lisa would enter the kitchen and flounce by and Ellen would shoot such a look at her.🤣 Just the memory of these encounters sends me.😂

I always wanted Michael Shea to return...maybe during the time David had amnesia....he would have course have to have miracle soap plastic surgery but he would be able to push Lisa's ego and horn dog buttons and also get in Ellen's good graces in that he would be providing medical care for the homeless, something that Ellen would volunteer for. Maybe he would take the name of one of David's friends who had died...and of course "Chuckie " would be alive and fall for Betsy (much better then angry Steve..) Somehow the women would end up being threatened by him and held hostage and Ellen would get to slap Lisa when she was hysterical...Lisa, "I wasn't that hysterical," Ellen "I know, but it's a good excuse..that slap was years in the coming!"