Dallas 2.0: Discussion Thread

Someone mentioned that shows like The Closer get much better ratings.

Mad Men is critically acclaimed, so the ratings don't matter to AMC. Dallas is supposed to be watercooler and buzzed about.

Hasn't the closer been on five years? It is allowed to have 6 million watchers to justify it being on that amount of time. I think you worry too much about what Dallas is supposed to be. It's supposed to be watercooler, it's supposed to be young and sexy. So when it isn't there is a problem, but who said it is supposed to be watercooler? Game Of Thrones is watercooler, Lost was watercooler, zombies and vampires are watercooler. I love Dallas but it hasn't been watercooler since 1982. I never read a single interview or review where anyone thought Dallas was going to be the buzz show everyone in the know is watching. That's Game Of Thrones, that was True Blood a couple of years back, and Lost a few years before that, Heroes briefly, and The Killing for a couple of months last year. The Closer isn't a watercooler show and never was. I just now had to google it because I never heard of the show before, to be honest.

I think The Closer became popular. I guess Dallas could too, but with all the promo they did, I think they may have expected more.

I'm not Carl, but...

Why do you think Mad Men can afford bad ratings but Dallas can't? They're both basic cable.

True. On the other hand, "Mad Men," although far from being a "ratings winner," can afford lower ratings, because the viewers they do attract probably skew the way AMC would prefer (i.e., young, urban, financially upscale). Same reason why "St. Elsewhere" lasted as long as it did on NBC (six years) despite never rising above no. 49 (or so) in the year-end ratings.

I think The Closer became popular. I guess Dallas could too, but with all the promo they did, I think they may have expected more.

Exactly. I don't believe TNT is ready to pull the trigger (no pun intended), but they'd be lying if they said they weren't at least a little disappointed by the results thus far.

Edited June 22, 201213 yr by Khan

it's true ALL shows drop, now if it loses over half it's audience next week, then I'll agree it's not good.

Same.

They're not going based on a rerun of 30 years ago, it's supposed to be a hot new show, with sexy young pieces of melting plastic, and heavy promotion.

Which might prove problematic for TNT, should the end of the season come and the only ones still watching are those who were in the teens and twenties when the first series was on.

I'm not Carl, but...

True. On the other hand, "Mad Men," although far from being a "ratings winner," can afford lower ratings, because the viewers they do attract probably skew the way AMC would prefer (i.e., young, urban, financially upscale). Same reason why "St. Elsewhere" lasted as long as it did on NBC (six years) despite never rising above no. 49 (or so) in the year-end ratings.

Exactly. I don't believe TNT is ready to pull the trigger (no pun intended), but they'd be lying if they said they weren't at least a little disappointed by the results thus far.

Mad Men has great demos, with half their audience aged 18-54. And I bet they have a healthy male audience too, which is a tough audience to crack unless Tiger Woods is starring. Dallas' audience isn;t too shabby. Their total audience is larger, and their demos while not being as good as Mad Men isn't bad.

Dallas' ratings are fine. They need to stay around that though. Another significant drop would not be good. I think if they stay the same there will definitley be another season.

For everyone's sake, I hope the ratings do stabilize. Lord knows we need something to fill the void in our lives that the loss of so many, once-great soaps has created. I'm just sorry I can't be more enthused about what I'm seeing on-screen.

Edited June 22, 201213 yr by Khan

Dallas' ratings are fine. They need to stay around that though. Another significant drop would not be good. I think if they stay the same there will definitley be another season.

Agreed

I mean really anyone expecting big ratings from the new Dallas is crazy. Dallas was heavily promoted in 98 during the 2nd reunion movie and it didnt do so well and this was one of the three major networks...come on.....

Unlike the reunion movies, though, DALLAS 2.0 received mixed-to-glowing advance reviews from critics (whereas, when it came to "J.R. Returns" and "War of the Ewings," critics basically told folks just to avoid). I really do think word-of-mouth means everything.

Edited June 22, 201213 yr by Khan

Seriously I didnt expect big numbers from Dallas...I mean pls its TNT for gods sake.......and its had more viewers both weeks....whether it gets renewed or not...we dont know for sure...but I am going to enjoy the hell out of this one season we do get. And I am sure this will soon come out on DVD say Christmas time....a nice stocking stuffer...

And I am sure this will soon come out on DVD say Christmas time....a nice stocking stuffer...

Replete with multiple, alternate endings for the "Who Killed Rebecca?" mystery that will cap the season.

Allegedly.

Edited June 22, 201213 yr by Khan

Meanwhile, on another front, it just occurred to me who I would've tapped to play Ann Ewing (rather than Brenda Strong):

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004812/

You know I would have cast:

Just kidding....Sort of.

I probably would have gone for Sally Field

or Judith Light

Edited June 22, 201213 yr by SoapBoy94

Judith Light? Maybe for a role on KNOTS LANDING: THE NEXT GENERATION. But not DALLAS 2.0.

And the only show I want to see Sally Field on is a revival of "The Flying Gidget with Something Extra." Or whatever the hell it was called.

Edited June 22, 201213 yr by Khan

And let's just presume for the moment, too, that Tommy and Rebecca are 1) siblings, and 2) NOT Pam's kids. If that's the case, then I want Kate Jackson to turn up next season as their viper-like mother who turns things upside down for her kids AND for the Ewings.