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Y&R: Episode Discussion for the week February 1

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They filled in blanks...they didn't contradict or erase things we knew to be true.

That DOES NOT mean that the writers should fill in the blanks with loads of crap.

Which they did.

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Exactly. Morrow has let this show down just like the writers have.

Morrow was never Ben Hendrickson or Darnell Williams but he was competent.

Now Nick has to be propped by TPTB cause the character has been almost totally destroyed.

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That DOES NOT mean that the writers should fill in the blanks with loads of crap.

Which they did.

Exactly. Especially when the motivations for these characters keep on changing every 5 seconds or when they don't exist at all.

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Mark, I hope I don't sound like I'm criticizing you or your ideas. This is just venting at the show.

So, I know the Sharon backstory bothers you, :lol:. It's not quite as egregious as Brad's Nazi backstory. But the two share a commonality (and I know I'm risking bricks for saying something good about the start of Brad's last big story): They filled in blanks...they didn't contradict or erase things we knew to be true. Indeed, Sharon's sluttery this last year plays well with her Diego and Cameron affairs. (Now, Brad's story was worse...because he lived openly...he didn't seem to be afraid of Nazis until LML made him Jewish).

I have zero problem with these 'backfill retcons' UNLESS THEY CONTRADICT WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY LEARNED.

What if a retcon is completely pointless and is then forgotten about almost immediately afterward? And what if that retcon has absolutely zero to do with explaining their behavior past or present? The rewrite said Sharon was supposed to be a klepto when she was a teenager. There was nothing said about sex. Then suddenly, Sharon's kleptomania was an afterthought and her mental illness became all about her spreading her legs for various men. Then we learned that this was not actually mental illness, that she would be cured if she had Nick and a baby. Then we learned that she didn't actually need Nick or the baby, and she could be perfectly fine being away from Nick and marrying a man who would further isolate her from Nick.

Why bring in all this psychobabble if you aren't going to do anything with it? The writers have such a low opinion of a woman's sexuality that they think the only way a woman can have sex with multiple partners is if she is a wounded bird who can't control herself. That seemed to be the only reason for the retcon.

Bill Bell never needed to rewrite Jill's history to showcase her having a healthy sexual appetite. There were no scenes of Liz telling us that when Jill was 18, she stole Leslie Brooks's David Cassidy album and then had a threeway with Snapper's college friends.

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Morrow was never Ben Hendrickson or Darnell Williams but he was competent.

Now Nick has to be propped by TPTB cause the character has been almost totally destroyed.

Yep... he was OK and he, at times, turned in some really heartfelt, touching performances.

Now, it feels like he's mostly playing himself.

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Yeah! That is an important oversight, and they do it all the time. For "killing" Dru, nobody from the Winters clan or Sharon should ever give Phyllis a moment of kindness.

This is the same TPTB that only lets Neil & Sharon share scenes on Crimson Lights coffee runs.

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We have to see how Nick is the good son compared to Adam.

And act like Adam is evil because he DARED succeed because of his education.

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This is the same TPTB that only lets Neil & Sharon share scenes on Crimson Lights coffee runs.

That is awful. I know that I basically don't believe FOR ONE MINUTE that Sharon was Dru's "best friend". A real best friend would be intimately involved with the lives of her survivors.

But then too, so would the cancer-survivor aunt.

And act like Adam is evil because he DARED succeed because of his education.

Although Adam can shut the heck up about his Harvard education. I think he throws in that word daily.

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Oh, and I love how Sharon was supposed to be a klepto as a teenager, then spent around 14 years (or around 25 when you think of SORASes) not being a klepto and then went back to being one again? What made her stop? What really triggered it again? Why didn't Cassie's death do this? Holes, holes, holes.

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And act like Adam is evil because he DARED succeed because of his education.

Sara Bible thought that GH was anti elitism. 4 people on this show with an Ivy League education are written as incompetent at their jobs or not as good as people with a degree from Candyland U or self made.

Although Adam can shut the heck up about his Harvard education. I think he throws in that word daily.

That's to make him look like a bigger idiot when he fails.

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Members of the Y&R writing team are reading this (since they have nothing better to do and love stealing absurd story ideas from the boards), and just blaming the fans for not being stupid enough to buy their lazy, poorly planned, and absurd writing.

Maybe we ought to move this to the Potpourri thread, before Toups brings out the whip again. -_-

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Indeed, Sharon's sluttery this last year plays well with her Diego and Cameron affairs.

No it doesn't.

That Sharon & the Sharon who slept with her ex husband, her current husband & her current husband's brother in the span of WEEKS aren't comparable.

(Now, Brad's story was worse...because he lived openly...he didn't seem to be afraid of Nazis until LML made him Jewish).

An international corporate businessman & part time Navy Seal on the run from art fencing NAZI'S.

Thank GOD LML is gone.

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That is awful. I know that I basically don't believe FOR ONE MINUTE that Sharon was Dru's "best friend".

1st & 15th.

But then too, so would the cancer-survivor aunt.

And cancer surviving aunt's cancer surviving best friend!

Although Adam can shut the heck up about his Harvard education. I think he throws in that word daily.

Why shouldn't Adam be proud of his education?

He EARNED it unlike Nick who had the benefit of always being a Newman.

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Oh, and I love how Sharon was supposed to be a klepto as a teenager, then spent around 14 years (or around 25 when you think of SORASes) not being a klepto and then went back to being one again? What made her stop? What really triggered it again? Why didn't Cassie's death do this? Holes, holes, holes.

True! Of course, I could retcon that for 'ya, and show a drawer filled with sh!t she stole after Cassie's death :lol:

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Oh, and I love how Sharon was supposed to be a klepto as a teenager, then spent around 14 years (or around 25 when you think of SORASes) not being a klepto and then went back to being one again? What made her stop? What really triggered it again? Why didn't Cassie's death do this? Holes, holes, holes.

Exactly.

Brad's death makes Sharon a klepto but Faith's DOESN'T?

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