Y&R Episodes Discussion, Week of November 2, 2009

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Agreed, it's the way I feel (not necessarily in regards to brimike), but with having a defeatist attitude.

[Sylph]

Yup.

[brimike]

Well, of course my opinion matters to myself. It's why I change the channel if I don't like what I see. LOL!

Which is why (so Toups doesn't come after me with a chainsaw) I didn't change the channel during the Phillip/Chance/Nina scene today. Because I liked it.

[Delta24d]

I echo Die Cane Die

[soapfan770]

Hmm I guess this didn't work out did it now? Actually I had almost forgot they were even still on.

[dm.]

I like this new Ashley, but I wonder how long will it take until she breaks down again because we all know it will happen once she learns the real paternity of Faith. It's stupid how all these women need to be victimized all the time.

[MarkH]

I found there was much to admire on Wednesday actually:

- I liked seeing P3 and Nina, and I liked that we finally got a hint of some of the complexity of the Chance resentment.

- I liked that Chance had a backbone with Chloe. I also liked seeing him in workout gear, LOL.

- I thought Bergman did a great job..."Am I being fired?"

- Emily seems more and more interesting, and I liked her interaction with Bergman and Davidson

- The show is moving RESOLUTELY to business storylines, so I am intrigued by Kay taking Chancellor public

- There is a promise for Neil to be in the thick of this, and he was the only watchable part of the Winters for me yesterday. I cannot watch Lily-Cane, and I'm irritated by how facilely they resolved Devon's romantic crisis OFF CAMERA

Beyond the Winters/Cane, I find myself a little perplexed by why Kay suddenly needs to "make amends". And I am groaning that her lost offspring is coming back into the mix. The show needed to take a break from that for a while.

[DRW50]

I wonder if Katherine taking the company public means she will lose Chancellor via some sort of takeover or other collapse (she is a woman, after all).

I do like the brief focus on Chance and his parents. I wish Chloe weren't involved, as I often get the feeling this is all about her (and EH tends to get more of the focus in the soap magazine piece about these episodes). I like EH and I like Chloe a lot more when she isn't in the needy stalker role but I'm sorry they didn't do more with the Phillip/Nina/Chance relationships outside of her.

[MarkH]

I worry about the same. At least they explicitly addressed Jack's Jabot debacle...implying it would be avoided. Clearly, Kay having an undivided 51% or even 60%, or limiting the public shares to non-voting stock, would all be fixes. They acknowledged the economy, but I find the property of an IPO in this climate quite implausible.

My fear is that this will be used to bring Kay's lost child back into the fold...and this won't be a nice person.

[DRW50]

So are you expecting someone to take over Chancellor and then we find out that this is her long lost child and they are going to ruin her business out of revenge for being given away at birth?

I'd hate to see that, although I would hope this might throw her and Jill together in a positive way, as they fight to save the company. Then again, if it's a man, then he might win Jill over and get her to work with him against Katherine.

All of this could be a very interesting, long storyline...if it was written by someone like Harding Lemay. With Sheffer and Rauch, it scares me.

[MarkH]

You are, in fact, explicating some of my fears.

LOL! Surprise, surprise! But I don't disagree.

[Juliajms]

It really wouldn't make a lot of sense for Kay to wait to find this child though. She's 80 years old. If she wants to meet this child she best do it right now. I can't believe she didn't do it the second she found out Jill wasn't her daughter.

[MarkH]

Yes, you offer a compelling rationale for why Kay wouldn't let this rest. And, for the show, it makes some sense that they'd want to get this person in place before Jeanne becomes too infirm to launch the story.

[Juliajms]

Unfortunately, that is my thoughts as well. I wish they would bring in someone really good in this role and I don't mean Kim Zimmer.

[Cat]

"The part of Lily is now being played by Mr. Spock."