Guiding Light Discussion Thread

[danfling]

What writer created the character of Dr. Joe Werner - Irna Phillips, Agnes Nixon, or someone else?

[Fevuh]

I was watching Live with Kelly and Ryan the other day and Robin Givens was on - and she mentioned being on Guiding Light.  Rare these days that someone who came from Soaps mentions it, but those that do - usually on Kelly because she claims it proudly (from AMC).  I remember Robin briefly but does anyone remember the character and storyline?

[John]

 

wish I could find a clip of that

[Fevuh]

What's interesting is that they were talking about all of her current projects (she's on like 3 shows or 2 shows and a movie or something), all of her current projects, and she mentioned all 3 - whatever they were, and she was on Guiding Light.  But didn't mention she's been on B&B several times this year hahahahahaha.  Good. 

[zanereed]

 

I really want to say it was Agnes Nixon, but she left at some point during 1966, the same year Werner was originally introduced (in fact, I think Joe Werner's debut TGL episodes are still up on YT). However, it could also have been any of the numerous writers who came after her. If I recall, wasn't there a lot of turnover for the next year or two until Irna, herself, wrote it again briefly?

[Khan]

For some reason, I recall RG being on GL around the time of the Infinity storyline, and she was even in Lujack's music video.  (Perfect training, I guess, for those all-musical episodes of "Head of the Class").

Edited June 27, 2019 by Khan

[slick jones]

Givens was Diana. She dated I.Q. (Jaison Walker). He was a former Galahad and Lujack's friend. She was on from 1984-85, recurring.

[heffer]

Does anyone know what happened to Jaison Walker? He seemed to disappear after Playing IQ.

[RL3]

 Hey, big Guiding Light fan here. Watched it on TV, have years of episodes on DVD, etc. I found this website a few days ago in a search for Kimberely Simms because I have always loved her Mindy Lewis. I've been reading posts on here and love seeing other fans' thoughts, opinions, history, etc.

 

  Other than KS as Mindy I also love the late, great Beverly McKinsey as Alexandra, Sherry Stringfield as Blake, Cynthia Watros as Annie, Michael Zaslow as Roger, Wendy Moniz as Dinah, Toby Poser as Amanda, Rick Hearst as Alan-Michael, Maureen Garrett as Holly, Jean Carol as Nadine, Amelia Marshall as Gilly, PP as Vivian, Fiona Hutchinson as Jenna, Leonard Stabb as Hart, Nia Long as Kat, Melissa Hayden as Bridget.

 

 I think GL was excellent from 1990 to 1993 (especially 1991 and 1992) and also 1997. I think 2002 was their last good year. 

[victoria foxton]

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[NothinButAttitude]

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[Bill Bauer]

 

But Meta never lived in Five Points and never knew Rev. Ruthledge. I guess I’d be one of the few that would know that or care. 

[Khan]

Moreover, Rev. Ruthledge never had a son, so how the modern-day Rev. Ruthledge was related to Irna's Rev. Ruthledge, I'll never know.

[vetsoapfan]

 

Well, we do not know where Meta and her family lived when she was "a girl." We only met the Bauers in 1948 when all three children had already grown up. So it doesn't actively contradict established history to indicate that perhaps the Bauers had lived in, or visited, Five Points twenty+ years before we met them. And as a travelling minister, Rev. Ruthledge could have visited any other town which the Bauers called home before they began appearing on TGL. So I gave write Claire Labine a pass on this scene, because she was trying to weave history into the present day, and I got so verklempt just hearing Rev. Ruthledge's name. I can accept that the Bauers had known John Ruthledge because it ties together the first two "periods" of the show's history.

 

 

Yes, this is a more egregious/careless error; harder to explain away or excuse.

 

As far as we know, Rev. Ruthledge only had a daughter named Mary.

 

Steven Ruthledge was said to be the original John Ruthledge's "grandson," but to bear that family name, Mary Ruthledge Holden would have had to give birth as a single woman to Steven, and bestow upon him her own maiden name rather than his father's surname.

 

Or, possibly Rev. Ruthledge had met a woman while he was in Europe and sired a son by her before his death in 1946.

 

Both these theories are possible, but viewers should NOT have to do mental cartwheels in order to justify what we see on-screen. With the introduction of Steven Ruthledge, it looked to me like the writers had done a half-assed job of examining history, and did not care much if they had made a continuity error. They probably figured that no one in the audience would know or care.

 

 

 

[victoria foxton]

These's 26 yrs old episodes are more socially relevant than present day soaps. Vinny's attack on Stavros  is hard to watch. As are the disgusting racialist comments he makes at Kat & David. If hatemonger Vinny was on today. They would make him the shows leading man. This is the GL i feel in love with. 

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Edited July 10, 2019 by victoria foxton