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Those 70's scenes are definitely a cut above the ATWT eps of that era.

Sets look classier and better lit.

Kim's apartment from that time on ATWT looks cheap and the lighting is stark. The women's makeup looks garish.

It looks like Love of Life also had better production values in the 70's.

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1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

Those 70's scenes are definitely a cut above the ATWT eps of that era.

Sets look classier and better lit.

Kim's apartment from that time on ATWT looks cheap and the lighting is stark. The women's makeup looks garish.

It looks like Love of Life also had better production values in the 70's.

Funny how you compare SFT to ATWT's production values, because if I'm correct, SFT's EP Mary Ellis Bunim leaves that show become producer of ATWT in the early 80s. 

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16 minutes ago, MichaelGL said:

Funny how you compare SFT to ATWT's production values, because if I'm correct, SFT's EP Mary Ellis Bunim leaves that show become producer of ATWT in the early 80s. 

She did, and the producer before her...(he of the bad lighting, cheap sets and garish make up) was Fred Bartholemew...former child star, turned ad agency exec who was given ATWT and was pretty much a hack...I remember when Search was on before ATWT as a kid, even if I wasnt interested...it always looked better then ATWT did at that time.

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26 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

I don’t think I’ve seen such an early SFT clip of Lisa Peluso…

 

A few more clips of Lisa Peluso as a young Wendy. 

 

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5 hours ago, Mitch said:

She did, and the producer before her...(he of the bad lighting, cheap sets and garish make up) was Fred Bartholemew...former child star, turned ad agency exec who was given ATWT and was pretty much a hack...I remember when Search was on before ATWT as a kid, even if I wasnt interested...it always looked better then ATWT did at that time.

Lol. I had no idea that Little Lord Fauntleroy became a soap producer.

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Thanks alerting us to 60's/1970's SFT. I remember reading that Linda Bove was on the show in Soap Digest years ago. After watching that scene with her, I want to see the rest of the storyline. Did her character Melissa marry Matt ?

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2 hours ago, SoapDope said:

Thanks alerting us to 60's/1970's SFT. I remember reading that Linda Bove was on the show in Soap Digest years ago. After watching that scene with her, I want to see the rest of the storyline. Did her character Melissa marry Matt ?

Yes they marriedand left Henderson

Matt was played by Robert Phelps husband of Jill Farren Phelps.

Karl Light and Patricia Roe played her parents.

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10 hours ago, Mitch said:

She did, and the producer before her...(he of the bad lighting, cheap sets and garish make up) was Fred Bartholemew...former child star, turned ad agency exec who was given ATWT and was pretty much a hack...I remember when Search was on before ATWT as a kid, even if I wasnt interested...it always looked better then ATWT did at that time.

P&G did one of their famous producer swaps in Fall 1981.  Mary Ellis Bunim went to ATWT and Fred Bartholemew went to SFT.  Bartholemew was the EP at SFT when it left CBS for NBC in March 1982.

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And Bunim, in her Afternoon TV interview at the time, said one of the changes at ATWT would be to introduce 'key lighting' to highlight faces and reduce shadows.

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Thanks for sharing that YT channel info! WOW. I have always been curious about the era when Joel Higgins/Anne Wyndham/Michael Nouri/Meg Bennett were on. Nice to see them here.

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The clip of Jo's commercial for council is a nice tribute to Mary Stuart.

Nice that at that point the show was recognizing Jo/Mary and her legacy when later regimes seemed to sideline her.

Interesting that they ignored her longest running marriage to Arthur, instead talking about her being a young widow and then mentioning her marriage to Tony.

The Corringtons were doing a good job of integrating the old and the new, but then the show began dropping too many characters

Jo marrying Martin seemed, on paper a good way of integrating her into the new family on the show but did anyone like Jo and Martin?

In the scenes where she was showing off her wedding dress, Kathy and Ellie were talking about her new romance as like a fairy tale and Jo was agreeing but Mary played it like she thought the reality would be different(which it was)

It seemed doomed from the start, which was unfair to Jo. I think viewers would have been happy to see her in a satisfying marriage, not without it's challenges as she tried to be  a part of a new clan, but overall a good match.

Instead Jo became a nag and a drag.

Where and why did that all go wrong?

 

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3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Where and why did that all go wrong?

 

Like with every long running soap with mediocre ratings, too many changes in writers and producers.  And the switch from CBS to NBC did SFT no favors.  Ironically, the show was at its best on NBC at the time of its cancellation in 1986.  SFT had one of the best final episodes of a soap. Did P&G and NBC really think in 1982 that the entire CBS audience would follow the show to NBC?  The average rating of the show on CBS during 1981-82 season was 6.8.  The average rating of the show on on NBC during the 1981-82 season was 3.4.  

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On 11/22/2021 at 9:36 PM, Chris 2 said:

Boy do those clips bring back memories. I caught glimpses of the first two adult Lizas - Meg Bennett and Hope Busby - in the Christmas videos. I also saw Peter Simon as Scott (he was surprisingly handsome in his younger years), beautiful Courtney Sherman as Kathy, and Millee Taggart - later a writer - as Liza’s way-too-young mother Janet.

Is this Hope Busby?

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