Today's show confirmed Kitty is male--HE sleeps a lot--and will be staying in the potting shed. Y&R is all about the gay storylines now.

I would like to say -- I CALLED IT!!! A couple of weeks ago, I referred to Kitty as a male [Hello, I'm a girl. I can spot the male of the species a mile away!] and yet you all "corrected" me and said Kitty was a lady. Well, once again, I called it! Kitty is Mr. Kitty, thank you very much.

After seeing Adam with Mary Jane, TPTB have got to stop this Adam sexing up Rafe storyline. We need gays on the show but find someone who could be convincing. Daniel, maybe? MM has no sexual chemistry with men. He does, however, have nice chemistry with ED and very good chemistry with SH. Adam & MJ need to get married and officially adopt Kitty.

Why is Jill surprised that P3 is gay? What's surprising is that Billy is straight! If anyone should have two gays sons, it should be Jill. Is there a Gay/Straight Trading Fair in Genoa City? Can the Straights trade in Billy for Adam? Also, can the Gays trade in Rafe for Daniel?

Non spoiler for Tuesday

Colleen is back and along with that the wonderful pronunciation of English via Australia using Riot instead of Right.

It reminds me so much of this scene in the Commitments where Jimmy is telling the girls that when singing Mustang Sally they can't sing in their own accents because it is Ride Sally Ride, not Riot Sally Riot.

Faith, or Hope or Miracle is supposed to be a girl. Photoshop Cashton!!

It's a demon-baby...all demon-baby's have stuff that shouldn't be there! LOL! Besides all Newman spawn should have balls - Victoria USED to have balls a long, long time ago....Heather Tom. The only nice thing I have to say about AH as Victoria is she's not as bad as Sarah Aldridge or whatever her name was.

Edited July 14, 200916 yr by Cashton

This thread is such a treat to read.

I loved when Katherine said to Phillip "We're not bumpkins!" when he told them he was gay and went on about how they wouldn't accept him

They should have Phillip say he overheard Brock and Katherine talking about her brief relationship with Joann Curtis, and how it had been wrong, and inappropriate. That way, Phillip will have motive for thinking they wouldn't accept his homosexuality, and this would be rooted in Katherine's history, without making Katherine retconned into a bigot.

Uh what does a baby with a douche, a loser, and slut as three potential fathers and a slutty klepto mother look like lol?

They should have Phillip say he overheard Brock and Katherine talking about her brief relationship with Joann Curtis, and how it had been wrong, and inappropriate. That way, Phillip will have motive for thinking they wouldn't accept his homosexuality, and this would be rooted in Katherine's history, without making Katherine retconned into a bigot.

That would actually have been a good idea and since MAB is so hellbent on using history for the current stories, It's pathetic she overlooked such an important little detail.

I loved when Katherine said to Phillip "We're not bumpkins!" when he told them he was gay and went on about how they wouldn't accept him

I wonder if that is what the PTB think its audience is?

Having said that, I have to say that Monday's US episode, with the gaslighting of Ashley, was painful to watch -- and also masterful. Yes, I went there! The way Dr. Taylor turned the screws, having Ashley (who half-guesses that the baby is gone) collapsing in tears when, after an interminable wait, she sees "the heartbeat." Dr. Taylor's panic -- and the way he told Adam to shove it -- was awful and clever in equal measure. I feel so badly for Ashley. On a superficial note, her hair is looking a thousand times better.

Thom Bierdz isn't fabulous, but neither is he bad. The Down's syndrome comments... I don't know. He does say "dis" instead of "this" and his words are a bit slurry but surely this is part-Wisconsin accent, part-hard living. LOL, maybe he has a tongue stud? A friend of mine had one and she got all lispy as a result. In any case, I think he warmed up as the episode went on and, while I don't buy the premise for Philip Chancellor sending Cane to his family, I can appreciate the feelings he expressed about being the Chancellor heir and gay.

TPTB do seem bent on making him as asexual a gay man as possible -- no lovers during all these years while he "ached with loneliness"? That is some hard-core resilience. What about friends? A support group? Was Cane a substitute son for him? That would make for an interesting Cane-Chance dynamic.

Speaking of, I really liked the Cane-Mac scenes.

TPTB do seem bent on making him as asexual a gay man as possible -- no lovers during all these years while he "ached with loneliness"? That is some hard-core resilience. What about friends? A support group? Was Cane a substitute son for him? That would make for an interesting Cane-Chance dynamic.

I thought he meant he never hooked up with a man before he left. If they meant he has never slept with a man in the last 20 years...well, that is just ridiculous. What was the point in leaving? If he was going to be celibate he might as well have stayed in town and raised his son.

I thought he meant he never hooked up with a man before he left. If they meant he has never slept with a man in the last 20 years...well, that is just ridiculous. What was the point in leaving? If he was going to be celibate he might as well have stayed in town and raised his son.

Yeah, I took it as that he "ached with lonliness" (I hate that line) when he was in Genoa City as a teen-ager, didn't meet any boys while he was still "alive". Not once he went to Australia.

Can they write Jeffrey and Gloria OUT please? Geesh, it's so obvious that they no longer know what to do with these two and they just shove them in wherever they can. I would think it would be an easy decision when they need to pare down their canvas and when they know they ignore half of the cast.

^^ Yes, I think he meant while he was in Genoa City.

I'm sure the town in Australia he ran away to was full of Canes running around in their AussieBum speedos and loneliness became utterly foreign to him.

^^ Yes, I think he meant while he was in Genoa City.

I'm sure the town in Australia he ran away to was full of Canes running around in their AussieBum speedos and loneliness became utterly foreign to him.

I was going to make a "then he 'ached' with something else" joke, but don't want to be accused of pornography.

Edited July 14, 200916 yr by brimike

Can they write Jeffrey and Gloria OUT please? Geesh, it's so obvious that they no longer know what to do with these two and they just shove them in wherever they can. I would think it would be an easy decision when they need to pare down their canvas and when they know they ignore half of the cast.

To some pea brain in the writing staff, they continue to provide comic relief, right?

I think the best way to make use of these "humorous" characters, is to torture them like they've tortured us for the past few years.

And I don't mean empty threats from Victor Newman or showing them aghast before they have to take a cargo boat back to the states.

Someone should sic Adam on them...

I was going to make a "then he 'ached' with something else" joke, but don't want to be accused of pornography.

LMAO. I was going to ask if "pornographic infestation" looks like:

But then people would think I'm attacking the actress.