Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 8, 2009 Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 So true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted July 8, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 And you complain about MAB. I'd rather have MAB and Y&R can have all the hacks from GL and ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 8, 2009 Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 You can have MAB, because she sucks too. I don't want anyone currently in daytime writing for any of these shows, they all suck or stopped trying long ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChiTownBoi03 Posted July 8, 2009 Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well...maybe Kreizman can slow some of the show down. That's the only positive I see here. Everything seems to happen so fast on this show, I think *everyday* is a brand new day on ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelGL Posted July 8, 2009 Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 Why don't he just go ahead and hire Megan McTavish as well? We all know Chris wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 8, 2009 Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 Even Megan is a better writer than this. When someone sits on her. It bothers me how much horrible work she has turned out because there is some very good work which is ignored thanks to her crap. Kriezman is just awful. He totally wrecked GL. He has no idea how to tell a story. If he had a strong EP, I might feel differently, but he doesn't. I wonder if he will have Luke and Jade start hooking up. He did like the cousin love at GL, and this can be Luke's revenge because Jade runs Noah over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SOAPSFOREVER Posted July 8, 2009 Members Share Posted July 8, 2009 This is Goutman's doing. He brought on JP because she's known in the industry as a very weak headwriter. He needed someone in that position who wouldn't butt heads with him. If he wanted a storyline, then he didn't want a strong headwriter objecting or standing in his way. It's how he's operated in his EP positions through the years. He always goes for passive headwriters. DK and LG are just glad to have jobs. They are in no position to rock the boat at ATWT. They fit perfectly into the writing team because they'll go along with whatever CG wants. They pretty much know the ride is over if or when ATWT is axed. The pathetic part is that P&G allows this nonsense to continue. Clearly they're not interested in saving ATWT or they'd hired a dynamic headwriter who would save the show. Look at what's happening with DAYS right now. They had months of horrible publicity when they fired their biggest stars (or so everyone thought). Everyone was pretty much writing the show's obit. But by bringing in a strong EP and AWH, they've begun to stabilize things. Nope, the show isn't perfect, but it's getting much better press now and fans seem to be happier than they have in awhile. That could happen for ATWT, too, if Goutman and JP were history and a new, strong team came on board. But like everyone else, what infuriates this soap fan is Goutman's "character" driven comment. ATWT is as plot driven at GH, OLTL and AMC combined. Pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reallyhateskateonlost Posted July 9, 2009 Members Share Posted July 9, 2009 RIP ATWT. Last nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Actor87 Posted July 9, 2009 Members Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'm surprised P.J. hasn't joined the convo. Maybe she's counting to 1,000 before she goes postal. Yeah...my faith in this show was already on a downward slope. Now, it's at the bottom of a cliff. Kreizman: GL cancelled under him. Passanante: AW cancelled under her. Goutman: AW cancelled under him. God, this sucks. This really, really sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted July 9, 2009 Administrator Share Posted July 9, 2009 Some time in 2010..... Kreizman: GL & ATWT cancelled under him. Passanante: AW & ATWT cancelled under her. Goutman: AW & ATWT cancelled under him. They're going to give Brown/Esensten a run for most cancelled soap (B&E have 3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted July 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2009 And yet no one seems to care or give a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 10, 2009 Members Share Posted July 10, 2009 Several years ago, I was terribly jealous of Sheffer's ATWT opposite OLTL. Now, OLTL's worst day is still better than any episode of ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelGL Posted July 10, 2009 Members Share Posted July 10, 2009 ^And yet for me, as a GL fan, I'm still jealous of ATWT At least they still have sets. I still don't understand how ATWT could go from having people like Carolyn Culliton and Hal Corley on their writing team to David Kreizman and Lloyd Gold 8-9 years later under the same EP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 14, 2009 Members Share Posted July 14, 2009 You forgot the biggest plot-driven soap ever: Y&R, Edition 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ian Posted July 15, 2009 Members Share Posted July 15, 2009 I've been sworn to secrecy but I have it on good intel that ATWT is going to heat up in October... and I think something big is going to happen We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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