Lloyd Gold, Jean Passanante, David Kreizman, and Leah Laiman. Now that is ONE hack team. Shudder.

So true...

So true...

And you complain about MAB. I'd rather have MAB and Y&R can have all the hacks from GL and ATWT.

And you complain about MAB. I'd rather have MAB and Y&R can have all the hacks from GL and ATWT.

You can have MAB, because she sucks too.

I don't want anyone currently in daytime writing for any of these shows, they all suck or stopped trying long ago...

Well...maybe Kreizman can slow some of the show down. That's the only positive I see here. Everything seems to happen so fast on this show, I think *everyday* is a brand new day on ATWT.

Why don't he just go ahead and hire Megan McTavish as well? We all know Chris wants to.

Why don't he just go ahead and hire Megan McTavish as well? We all know Chris wants to.

Even Megan is a better writer than this. When someone sits on her. It bothers me how much horrible work she has turned out because there is some very good work which is ignored thanks to her crap.

Kriezman is just awful. He totally wrecked GL. He has no idea how to tell a story. If he had a strong EP, I might feel differently, but he doesn't.

I wonder if he will have Luke and Jade start hooking up. He did like the cousin love at GL, and this can be Luke's revenge because Jade runs Noah over.

You'd think Chris would get balls and say.....Jean you [!@#$%^&*] ..you are fired!! I've finally had it with your [!@#$%^&*] writing!!....AND HELL NO TO BRINGING ON KREIZMAN....I dont want you kreizman ....I need to find a good writer to possibly save ATWT.

Nope...Goutman has no balls.

This is Goutman's doing. He brought on JP because she's known in the industry as a very weak headwriter. He needed someone in that position who wouldn't butt heads with him. If he wanted a storyline, then he didn't want a strong headwriter objecting or standing in his way. It's how he's operated in his EP positions through the years. He always goes for passive headwriters. DK and LG are just glad to have jobs. They are in no position to rock the boat at ATWT. They fit perfectly into the writing team because they'll go along with whatever CG wants. They pretty much know the ride is over if or when ATWT is axed. The pathetic part is that P&G allows this nonsense to continue. Clearly they're not interested in saving ATWT or they'd hired a dynamic headwriter who would save the show. Look at what's happening with DAYS right now. They had months of horrible publicity when they fired their biggest stars (or so everyone thought). Everyone was pretty much writing the show's obit. But by bringing in a strong EP and AWH, they've begun to stabilize things. Nope, the show isn't perfect, but it's getting much better press now and fans seem to be happier than they have in awhile. That could happen for ATWT, too, if Goutman and JP were history and a new, strong team came on board. But like everyone else, what infuriates this soap fan is Goutman's "character" driven comment. ATWT is as plot driven at GH, OLTL and AMC combined. Pathetic!

RIP ATWT. Last nail in the coffin.

Edited July 9, 200916 yr by reallyhateskateonlost

I'm surprised P.J. hasn't joined the convo. Maybe she's counting to 1,000 before she goes postal.

Yeah...my faith in this show was already on a downward slope. Now, it's at the bottom of a cliff.

Kreizman: GL cancelled under him.

Passanante: AW cancelled under her.

Goutman: AW cancelled under him.

God, this sucks. This really, really sucks.

Kreizman: GL cancelled under him.

Passanante: AW cancelled under her.

Goutman: AW cancelled under him.

Some time in 2010.....

Kreizman: GL & ATWT cancelled under him.

Passanante: AW & ATWT cancelled under her.

Goutman: AW & ATWT cancelled under him.

They're going to give Brown/Esensten a run for most cancelled soap (B&E have 3).

Some time in 2010.....

Kreizman: GL & ATWT cancelled under him.

Passanante: AW & ATWT cancelled under her.

Goutman: AW & ATWT cancelled under him.

They're going to give Brown/Esensten a run for most cancelled soap (B&E have 3).

And yet no one seems to care or give a damn.

Several years ago, I was terribly jealous of Sheffer's ATWT opposite OLTL. Now, OLTL's worst day is still better than any episode of ATWT.

^And yet for me, as a GL fan, I'm still jealous of ATWT At least they still have sets.

I still don't understand how ATWT could go from having people like Carolyn Culliton and Hal Corley on their writing team to David Kreizman and Lloyd Gold 8-9 years later under the same EP.

ATWT is as plot driven at GH, OLTL and AMC combined. Pathetic!

You forgot the biggest plot-driven soap ever: Y&R, Edition 2009.

I've been sworn to secrecy but I have it on good intel that ATWT is going to heat up in October... and I think something big is going to happen

We'll see.