Glad to hear that noted soap historian and media expert Lisa Grinna has clarified this for us...

Yeah, they do need to evolve like everything else on TV or they become extinct, the networks will continue to research and try to come up with an easier and cheaper product to replace them, probably doing that now. I am eagerly anticipating what they are going to do about replacing GL. And of course Y&R has been the #1 soap for the last 20 years but I am no longer impressed by that considering the group and the state of the soaps we have now. The other shows are almost so bad that they make Y&R look way better than it really is. Nothing says we have to settle for mediocrity than such a comparison! Soaps have lost that spark to pull newer viewers in and are draining the loyal viewers that they have now. Heck my own mother has now stopped watching soaps because of the redundancy and now watches other things.

Everything else on TV has not evolved. There are a certain amount of shows that become "classic", like Coke. And if you change them up, you alienate the viewer and it all goes down the toilet. Tons of shows remain unchanged in format.. take for example, Meet The Press, Wheel OF Fortune, and Jeopardy. Soaps are not ephemeral shows like a sitcom can be, it's a genre of TRADITION. And it needs to stay that way.

she's being jumped on but lets face the facts people, she's only telling the truth

she's being jumped on but lets face the facts people, she's only telling the truth

If she was still employed in daytime, I doubt she'd be saying that.... its all relative I guess. I just am sick and tired of seeing her open her big, fat, fake mouth.... Go back to the corner and whore yourself onto Melrose

she's being jumped on but lets face the facts people, she's only telling the truth

I agree.

If she was someone who left the genre and said nothing but bad things about it, then it'd be different, but she's stayed pretty close to her daytime roots over the years and cares about daytime. If Josh Duhamel said that soaps are dead, then I'd tell him to STFU.

Edited April 20, 200916 yr by All My Shadows

Everything else on TV has not evolved. There are a certain amount of shows that become "classic", like Coke. And if you change them up, you alienate the viewer and it all goes down the toilet. Tons of shows remain unchanged in format.. take for example, Meet The Press, Wheel OF Fortune, and Jeopardy. Soaps are not ephemeral shows like a sitcom can be, it's a genre of TRADITION. And it needs to stay that way.

See, here is the crux of the great debate. Many people feel as you do. I have come to this way of thinking myself.

More correctly, I think the CURRENT SOAPS need to preserve their traditions. Otherwise, why continue them?

I think new soaps -- whenever and wherever they sprout -- are free to reinvent whatever the heck they want. I invite the day.

I agree.

If she was someone who left the genre and said nothing but bad things about it, then it'd be different, but she's stayed pretty close to her daytime roots over the years and cares about daytime. If Josh Duhamel said that soaps are dead, then I'd tell him to STFU.

Actually, as far as I know, Duhamel still pays occasional visits to the studio (AMC). He hasn't denied his roots like others.

But Lisa...she was d*mn annoying on Soaptalk. I watched for Ty, and winced for Lisa. I really miss Soaptalk...as a forum. But I don't miss her screeching "host chat" at all. I watched every single night...but it never made the screeching easier to take.

She has no personality at all, and I've yet to see what these entertainment shows that hire her to host their red carpet events see in her...

Forget the entertainment shows. What does Harry Hamlin see in her? I think the guy could do so much better (even if he strikes me as a bit of a douchebag).

Lisa Rinna is RIGHT! Right on! She understands this genre. I also think she should stop focusing on Melrose and concentrate on saving the soap genre.

She should be an Executive Producer or Head Writer. Maybe when Rauch retires, she can go to Y&R. She would be great there.

Or maybe she should take over Frons' job at ABC Daytime when he finally moves up the ladder.

LOL thanks Lisa Rinna, tell us something we didn't already know

Soaps are only dying because they hire who people who seem hell bent on destroying the genre than trying to help it.

Soaps can grow and evolve, but to change them completely is a death knell IMO. T