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CBS cancels Guiding Light

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Daytime Confidential claimed Frons wants Cosgrove as a recast Joey Buchanan.

I'd love to see Gina as Victoria but I'm not even sure if Y&R cares about repalcing Ameila Heinle. The idea of a strong woman being in Victor's life might give them pause, they've made sure all the women around Victor now are deluded doormats.

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Daytime Confidential claimed Frons wants Cosgrove as a recast Joey Buchanan.

I'd love to see Gina as Victoria but I'm not even sure if Y&R cares about repalcing Ameila Heinle. The idea of a strong woman being in Victor's life might give them pause, they've made sure all the women around Victor now are deluded doormats.

Very true..... I don't know.... Amelia was getting steady airtime up until Maria Bell really got things going..... Amelia was one of Latham's pets.... but mainly due to her storyline tie to her biggest pet Don Diamont....

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Though I have rarely watched in recent years, GL was my favorite tv show from 1988-93. It was soap opera at its finest. So many actors stood out in particular: the one and only Beverlee Mckinsey, Michael Zaslow, Jean Carol, Rachel Miner, Melina Kanakaredes, Sherry Stringfield, Kimberly Simms, the list is endless. Fantastic actors and stories defined this show for many years. It has had its ups and downs but will never be forgotten.

I also watched Guiding Light around the same time you did and there were a good number standout actors. Two of daytime's finest in Beverlee McKinsey (RIP) and Michael Zaslow (RIP), and the beginning of the careers of Sherry Stringfield, Melina Kanakaredes, and Nia Long. It is CRIMINAL that Beverlee McKinsey was never even nominated for lead actress in 1992 and 1993.

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I also watched Guiding Light around the same time you did and there were a good number standout actors. Two of daytime's finest in Beverlee McKinsey (RIP) and Michael Zaslow (RIP), and the beginning of the careers of Sherry Stringfield, Melina Kanakaredes, and Nia Long. It is CRIMINAL that Beverlee McKinsey was never even nominated for lead actress in 1992 and 1993.

GL has traditionally had the best cast in daytime, IMO. They've had tremendous actors over the years, more so than most soaps, IMO.

and yes, La McKinsey was criminally robbed of an Emmy the year before she left. One of the biggest snubs EVER in Emmy history, if you ask me.

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As much as we're all sad to see GL go, I think GL finding another home at this point is a lost cause. It won't last very long any place else.

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They've already cast another actor.

That doesn't stop any soap from recasting. BTW, spoiler tags!

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As much as we're all sad to see GL go, I think GL finding another home at this point is a lost cause. It won't last very long any place else.

I agree, which is why I hope they don't waste their time planning on keeping the show going. 100% of their energy should be in letting it ride out with dignity and honor.

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Well the Museum of TV and Radio be doing anything to commemorate this? it seems perfect for a series of rare episode showsings, a public forum and all that stuff they like to do.

Jim Tolkien--sorry I sounded harsh I don't feel that this cancelation won't affect the other soaps negatively. But I don't think it will directly, or quickly lead to much more than P&G wanting to get rid of ATWT sooner than they may have...

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They have plenty of time for an amazing sendoff. I think the show deserves a primetime special. I would really hope that they would return to a stdio for the final month or something...

I was at the Emmys the year AW was canceled, and they did NOTHING special for them save for a few comments made off the cuff by Linda Dano. It was depressing and insulting.

GL was my grandmother's story, never mine, but I remember seeing Philip's face as a little kid after school, and I got into the show when I was in high school in the mid-late '90s. Very sad. I b!tch about my story AMC on a daily basis, but you best believe I would go all Baptist funeral if it were ever cancelled. My heart's with the GL fans! :( Hold on tight to your memories of The Light!™

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Well the Museum of TV and Radio be doing anything to commemorate this? it seems perfect for a series of rare episode showsings, a public forum and all that stuff they like to do.

That would be nice. I haven't been there since it was renamed The Paley Center, but I have spent many rainy afternoons there watching TV, classic soaps in particular. I went to a couple of events they had back in 97/98 when they did their big "Worlds Without End" exhibit/symposiums.

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CBS' 'Guiding Light' to end in September

The soap, which began life in 1937 on radio, has fallen victim to a dwindling audience and racier shows.

By Meg James

April 2, 2009

CBS is turning off its "Guiding Light." After nearly three-quarters of a century on TV and radio, the serial drama about the intertwining lives of fictional families from different classes in the bucolic but placeless town of Springfield, will end its run in September. It is the latest example of the fragmentation of television.

Created as a 15-minute radio show in the grip of the Great Depression for a sponsor to sell soap to housewives -- hence the name "soap operas" -- "Guiding Light" struggled in recent years as its audience grew older, smaller and, for advertisers, less desirable. Show producers recently tried to revamp the program to give it an edgier, reality-show hipness, but the makeover couldn't stop the ebb of viewers.

"Talk about a grand old oak falling in the forest," television historian Tim Brooks said. "But there's not much forest left."

Once a mainstay of TV and one of the industry's most reliable and profitable genres, daytime dramas have slowly been getting scrubbed out of the network picture. Gone are a playbill of soaps with evocative names such as "Another World," "Santa Barbara," "Sunset Beach," Port Charles" and "Passions" -- all victims of a redrawing of the American workforce and the makeup of the daytime audience.

The target audience of soaps -- stay-at-home moms busy with the ironing and other chores -- has eroded as more women have joined the workforce. About 60% of women age 20 and older -- nearly 68 million women -- have jobs, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Fifty years ago, 63% stayed at home.

And when they are home, most women are tuning in elsewhere.

Soap operas' favorite themes of love, jealousy, betrayal and riches are now mined more sensationally on cable television, which doesn't contend with the same regulatory restrictions as broadcast television. Sassier reality shows such as MTV's "Dissed" and "Sex . . . With Mom and Dad," which borrow the pathos of soaps, are increasingly attracting the younger audience that advertisers want to reach.

"The real shift in daytime drama came in the 1990s," said Sally Sussman Morina, a former head writer on "Days of Our Lives" and creator of the soap "Generations," which ran for two seasons on NBC. "Daytime dramas used to be ahead of their time by tackling important social issues as part of their stories."

Daytime soaps delved into topics once taboo for prime-time, including adultery, rape, abortion, homosexuality and AIDS. The shows hit their zenith in the early 1980s when 30millionpeople tuned in for the marriage of Luke and Laura on ABC's "General Hospital."

"But then all of these other shows came along, 'Jerry Springer,' and 'Oprah,' and all the reality shows, and suddenly they were interviewing your next-door neighbor who was a transvestite sleeping with his sister," Sussman Morina said. "Cutting edge got away from us."

And daytime themes moved into prime time, first with "Dallas" and "Dynasty," and currently "Desperate Housewives" and "Brothers & Sisters." That offered women a weekly dose of their serialized drama.

"Guiding Light" is owned by Procter & Gamble, maker of Ivory, Tide, Mr. Clean and Crest toothpaste. P&G's TeleNext Media, which produces the show, said Wednesday that it would try to find a new home for the program, which was created in 1937. The radio show made the switch to CBS television in 1952, and in 1977 expanded to one hour.

Along the way, "Guiding Light" has helped open the door for several show business careers. Actors such as Kevin Bacon, James Earl Jones, Calista Flockhart, Taye Diggs and Hayden Panettiere got early breaks on the show. One of its pioneering writers, Agnes Nixon, went on to become the doyenne of soap operas, creating "One Life to Live" and "All My Children."

CBS executives said they agonized over the decision to end the longest-running drama in broadcasting. The final episode will air Sept. 18.

"We held off as long as we could out of respect for the show because of its place in CBS history as well as the history of television," said Nancy Tellem, president of CBS Paramount Network Television Entertainment Group. "But neither P&G nor we could make sense of it financially as the ratings continued to decline."

Ten years ago, "Guiding Light" was attracting nearly 5 million viewers an episode. This season, it has been mustering a mere 2.17 million. The median age of its audience is 56.5 years, according to Nielsen, an age group that has fallen out of favor with advertisers.

In addition, unlike daytime talk shows, soap operas are more expensive to produce because producers and writers must churn out an hourlong episode five days a week -- a punishing schedule that can lead to burnout.

Despite an ambitious overhaul of the show's production -- including switching to hand-held digital cameras, and outdoor location shots from the New Jersey horse country of Peapack -- "that didn't reflect any bump in the ratings," Tellem said. CBS is gambling that "we could put a new show in that time period, which could have the potential to grow, and we could do it at a much lower cost."

Still, Tellem believes, soaps are not washed up. Not all daytime dramas are on life support; CBS still makes a profit in daytime, she said. The network's "Young and the Restless" attracts an average of 5.26 million viewers an episode and "Bold and the Beautiful" has been fetching an average 3.65 million viewers. Walt Disney Co.'s SoapNet cable channel just posted one of its best quarters in the ratings.

For soaps, it has come down to survival of the fittest.

The "Guiding Light" staff of about 100 learned their show was being canceled Wednesday morning when they showed up for work. For the show's cast and crew who deal with fictional deaths and trauma on a daily basis, the sense of loss was suddenly real.

"This show has been here since before World War II," said executive producer Ellen Wheeler. "It has gone through wars and tragedies and triumphs -- man walking on the moon, and the dawn of the computer age. This show chronicled all these changes in society. It has been our mirror on society for generations, and when you lose something that is part of the fabric of society you lose something precious."

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How fitting that this happened on April Fools bc its been as if TIIC have been playing one big April Fools joke on the fans for a while

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Well the Museum of TV and Radio be doing anything to commemorate this? it seems perfect for a series of rare episode showsings, a public forum and all that stuff they like to do.

Jim Tolkien--sorry I sounded harsh I don't feel that this cancelation won't affect the other soaps negatively. But I don't think it will directly, or quickly lead to much more than P&G wanting to get rid of ATWT sooner than they may have...

I believe the death of one soap adversely impacts all soaps. Just ask anyone who watches more than one soap, there had to be that first soap that hooked them and through that exposed them to the next soap. It was through watching GH I eventually found AMC and OLTL and it was in a strange way my lack of satisfaction with GH that led me to DOOL. If you watch GL and you want something else, just being open to soap operas makes you more likely to turn on ATWT than say viewers of "Morning Joe" on MSNBC.

Where did all the kids who watched Passions go to? Nobody saw their demos rise at 1 pm; if anything they went down. It seems many who were watching Passions just stopped watching. Those were potential viewers of other soaps in the future gone. Creatively, the soaps now have to try and absorb these new GL actors on the market, and that means the eventual discarding of older actors from the other shows. Soaps do better when surrounded by other soaps. It's like talk shows, judge shows, sitcom blocs and all all the other blocs of shows. GL will be missed I think by daytime on many levels.

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Thank you for this article, Sylph...

CBS' 'Guiding Light' to end in September

The soap, which began life in 1937 on radio, has fallen victim to a dwindling audience and racier shows.

By Meg James

April 2, 2009

CBS is turning off its "Guiding Light." After nearly three-quarters of a century on TV and radio, the serial drama about the intertwining lives of fictional families from different classes in the bucolic but placeless town of Springfield, will end its run in September. It is the latest example of the fragmentation of television.

... because it is one of the best mainstream articles I have seen on this topic in the last 48 hours.

IT'S THE DEMOGRAPHICS! Not Ellen Wheeler, not Paul Rauch, not MADD.

I'll try to provide some better evidence for that later today ... :)

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