Y&R: Week of February 09, 2009

[BadZoe]

I hate "nice" soap characters. To me the ones that make me turn in every day are those who are out for themselves and yet can have close relationships with a few select individuals. That balance is what works for me.

Maybe it is because I'm not a guy, but I just don't understand the appeal of CK or Lily. To me the only scenes she is able to convincingly pull off are those of anger, like she showed at the cabin. The romantic stuff leaves me cold because I do not see and feel the passion, just a sense of romantic entitlement. I feel that Billy Miller has been carrying her these days and she is dragging him down. It will be interesting next week to see how Billy's chemistry with Lily and Chloe compares with

[Dan]

Don't worry. I'm a guy and I don't understand the appeal either. However, I will say this: I don't have this intense desire to see either Lily or Cane leave as others do. Perhaps it's the general greatness of the show itself, but it has allowed me to tolerate some of the other parts of the show that aren't up to my tastes, as no one can ever be expected to enjoy an entire show at all times. I know someone will enjoy Lily/Cane. And who knows? Maria Bell has worked a few miracles already. Maybe she can make me like them in a well-written story that won't bore me.

[TheRedWarrior]

I'm not saying I want everyone to be a goody two shoes. God knows I love Phyllis and I loved Diane Jenkins back in day (We LOVE you Susan Walters!) but to me there's a difference between being a flawed person and being a despicable excuse for a human being.

Chloe fits the later for me.

In regards to CK I liked both versions of Lily. I think both actresses can act. CK was great in her scenes at the cabin. For all the talk of chemistry between Billy and Chloe I see far more between Billy and Lily. Not to mention Cane is just a complete borefest that I hope he dies...no seriously I just think he's a waste of space. His hot body and looks don't even excuse his horrible farce of a character like JT.

Oh well to each his own. I see the passion between Lily and Billy. The day that he admitted to her that he was Sonny was a true eye opener.

I'm glad he told her the truth about the baby. At least that's one obstacle out of the way. I'm not naive though. The road for them (if there is one) won't be easy at all. Especially judging from the previews/spoilers. But that's soap operas for you and I hope that the writers see how perfect the two of them are together.

I'm glad Murphy suspected that Katherine had been kidnapped.

Jill is such a b but she's one heck of a fierce b and that makes all the difference in the world!

Hope to see more Colleen next week as well as Victor and Ashley!

[y&r_fan]

RedWarrior, you have yet to say ANYTHING I disagree with.

ETA - Except about Cane. He's an idiot, but for some reason I can't bring myself to dislike him. I'd like to see him with someone new (Victoria?).

[DaytimeFan]

I have to say...I'm not seeing the Billy and Chloe chemistry anymore either...it's like Lily said, they deserve each other because they're both selfish assh*les. I love them both, but not together and I use to LOVE them. AND THEN I couldn't believe it, but I found the aborted kiss between Chloe and Cane was...hot. Damn. How did THAT happen?!

Billy Miller is one helluva great actor. He plays Billy perfectly. He's a real person thanks to Miller's portrayal.

I just don't understand how anyone liked Kay and Jill being mother and daughter. I just don't get it. But you're entitled to your opinion...I for one am THRILLED, OVERJOYED, ECSTATIC that the DNA has been undone and if that somehow gets reversed...I'll be devastated.

Sharon Case is always gorgeous, aside from her hellish hair that she never seems to tame. I love watching Sharon Newman (for I'll never think of her as an Abbott) fall apart at the seams. She must be having a great time, the writing is terrific for that character!

[Toups]

I think it's pretty clear that Billy/Lilly is just a temp stop for Billy/Chloe and Cane/Lily.

I still love them.

I'm so happy too. I hope that the DNA test wasn't tampered with. I'm a Billy/Mac fan and I thought it was awful to make them first cousins. And I want a Mac/Billy/Chloe triangle.

[Cheap21]

well Ive always said that its a huge mistake to undo Kat/Jill as mother/daughter. I hope the DNA test was tampered with

[TheRedWarrior]

People say that stuff all the time. So and so is just a temp stop. It doesn't always turn out to be true...I'll just wait and see. Cane and Lily is even worse than Billy and Chloe IMO. At least Lily has a spark when she's with Billy. With Cane it's just on and on with nothing exciting or even fun happening.

Chloe is toxic and any relationship she's in she'll destroy. Unlike Phyllis there's nothing about Chloe that makes me feel for her. She created her mess now she can live with it.

The only triangle I want to see is Lily/Billy/Mac.

I hope they bring back Kelly Kruger or "Ash Bash". I've watched Y&R since way back and when I first started watching KK was playing Mac but I also saw Ash Bash and both were really good. not really feeling the 3rd actress to play Mac.

[usetobeasoapfan]

ITA!

I love my Billy & Chloe and I adored Billy & Mac... If TPTB go this route, this will be one big soapy mess to watch.

[juniorz1]

Amen. Bust out the champagne, because MAB had the guts to fix the greatest mistake in Y&R history. Her father-in-law, the great Bill Bell, would be proud.

I totally agree. I love when Sharon goes psycho, and her clepto-mania of late is friggin hilarious!

The mistake was making them mother/daughter in the first place. I simply don't understand how anyone who is a true or long-time fan of Y&R can't see that. What's next, Viki/Dorian as sisters? Jack/Victor as gay lovers? Brooke/Stephanie as mother/daughter? Those are all OBVIOUSLY simply terrible ideas.

Again, you GO MAB! Don't you dare UNDO your brilliant twist!

[ReddFoxx]

I've said it before, having Katherine and Jill as mother/daughter made their story even more interesting. They had been fighting for years and then all of the sudden, they find out they are related, it was a big rewrite, but a good twist.

I don't think they are reversing it, IMO, this is just another plot point to drag out the storyline with Katherine trying to get her life back, when it's all finished and think Jill paternity will remain the same. On a soap, it's really jumping the shark to mess with a characters paternity more than once.

[juniorz1]

Sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree. This was a court-ordered DNA test, done within 24 hours. It doesn't make sense that anyone tampered with it. Again, why would Clint bother kidnapping Katherine if he knew the DNA test was going to prove that she wasn't Kay after all?

Sorry to all the haters, but we've got a BELL in the house. Someone who understands what the foundation of Y&R was built on and Bill Bell's original intentions with his characters. And she has chosen to undo what should have never been done in the first place.

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KAY AND JILL AREN'T MOTHER & DAUGHTER! So eat it!

Jumping the shark is making Krystle Carrington & Alexis Colby blood-related. I ask you, did B&B jump the shark when it revealed that Ridge actually wasn't Bridget's daddy?

[BadZoe]

I think B&B did jump the shark when they made Bridget no longer Ridge's daughter. Unfortunately, now that Bridget has had sex and been pregnant by what would be her "uncle Nick" going back would be very gross. Although all paternity storylines on B&B have sucked.

At first I didn't mind the Jill and Kay were mother and daughter storyline. If I'm not mistaken, that was Kay Alden's baby and she had good writing to back it up. Since then however, the fire has pretty much left the Jill and Kay relationship. They became rather tender and loving where I think too much evil history has fallen between them to really justify that type of love. I like the idea of them becoming adversaries, forced to live together because of a court order, with neither budging or willing to sell. I also think Jill should be able to sue Katherine for extreme emotional damage from stealing her son and giving her a replacement. Maybe Jill could then also get a huge stake of Chancellor and all that it holds. Or if they don't have the court route, have Katherine realize that in her current health and mental state that Jill is the best person to run her company.

It would also have to come out as to why the first DNA test said they were a match. Was it Katherine who had it fixed so that Jill would be there for her in the end and take care of her. Jill was originally hired to be Katherine's companion/caretaker. What I would like to see is Jill, despite hating her, still having enough compassion for a suffering human being to help her with her through her memory problems and other ailments.

And what really has Chloe done that makes her so despicable? She didn't steal anyone's sperm and use it without consent, she didn't fix the paternity results to pass off Billy's baby as Canes, she didn't run over anyone. All she's done is break up a couple. A couple that if they were really so devoted, would have stayed together while he took Chloe to court to establish his parental rights. We live in the DNA age and paternity no longer needs to be established through marriage. I also think that Cane is so wrong to want to get this child used to a living arrangement and grow up watching a loveless marriage that is only going to be ripped away from the child when it young so he can be with his true love, Lily. To me that is not noble in any way shape and form just selfish.

To me the introduction of Billy has really changed Chloe from being an obsessive psycho to a vulnerable, emotionally damaged young woman. She loves both Billy and their baby, but is so scared of being abandoned by Billy like she was by her mother, that she is protecting herself through a relationship with Cane she is not invested in. I love her scenes with just her belly because EH has the type of charisma to carry a scene on her own.

I don't think they have lost it,

. Instead I wouldn't be surprised if they are being directed not to bring it in order to better establish Lily and Billy and Cane and Chloe as a couple. I have a sneaking suspicion that Lily is not going to tell Cane that Billy is the father because she is so noble and doesn't want to hurt him. She'll see him with "his" daughter and decide that maybe it is better for the baby not to have two train wrecks for parents. That way when Cane does find out, he and Lily will have to work their way back together rather than have instant happiness!

[sheilaforever]

Since everything pivotal has been commented on, that leaves me with the garbage. LOL

What was Sharon wearing on Friday!? Was this a Halloween costume? Seriously, if she's wearing this with a straight face, it means she's way messed up right now.

Love Graz' new hairdo. However the writers are really hinting at him leaving the show. So I guess Graz won't sign a new contract - huh? Too bad, Daniel & Amber are fabulous.

Enough with the Cane & Lily flashbacks - aka most boring couple ever. Considering this show also has Snoretoria Blandstrom and JT or in the pasthad the likes of Ashley & Cole this is a superlative.

Apart from that, Y&R totally rocks.

[a2sassy]

I agree that Kay and Jill NEVER should have been made mother and daughter and I'm glad it looks like MAB is undoing something that should have happened. It was done for shock and awe and wasn't very well thought out because after the initial drama, we were left with Kay and Jill being attached at the hip and a great young couple in Billy and Mac being blown to bits.