3 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

I thought they were very insightful and some good people could possibly emerge as the new chair head.

 

I agree. For the record, my top 4 choices are:

 

1. Tom Perez

2. Pete Buttigieg

3. Jaime Harrison

4. Keith Ellison

 

 

I LOVED seven year old Toby speaking to Tom Cotton. My parents grew up in Northwest Arkansas, so needless to say, I'm quite proud of those roots right now.  

2 minutes ago, MissLlanviewPA said:

 

I agree. For the record, my top 4 choices are:

 

1. Tom Perez

2. Pete Buttigieg

3. Jaime Harrison

4. Keith Ellison

 

 

 

I like Perez but I feel like he is too much involved in the establishment. Pete was doing too many talking points, and I grew tired of him bringing up Indiana. I feel like Jehmu, Sam, Keith, and Jaime were the stars. Overall, I am glad that everyone is on the same and willing to work together regardless who wins it all. 

10 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Was there a point to them? They lost and I find it foolish for CNN to continue carrying these meaningless debates. I didn't see it though so I have no idea who appeared.

 

I don't think they're pointless AT ALL. The Democratic Party is at a true crosswords right now, and with a Hillary/Bernie debate basically going on by proxy between Perez and Ellison, we need to see what they want to do with the party, while also taking steps to unite it at the same time. 

1 minute ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

I like Perez but I feel like he is too much involved in the establishment. Pete was doing too many talking points, and I grew tired of him bringing up Indiana. I feel like Jehmu, Sam, Keith, and Jaime were the stars. Overall, I am glad that everyone is on the same and willing to work together regardless who wins it all. 

 

Well, I have roots in Indiana so it didn't bother me.  (Of course, Perez is from Maryland like I am, but that's not my reason for supporting him in the first place--that said, I'll admit he could've been stronger tonight.)

 

But I understand where you're coming from. 

 

3 minutes ago, MissLlanviewPA said:

 

I don't think they're pointless AT ALL. The Democratic Party is at a true crosswords right now, and with a Hillary/Bernie debate basically going on by proxy between Perez and Ellison, we need to see what they want to do with the party, while also taking steps to unite it at the same time. 

 

Well, I have roots in Indiana so it didn't bother me.  (Of course, Perez is from Maryland like I am, but that's not my reason for supporting him in the first place--that said, I'll admit he could've been stronger tonight.)

 

But I understand where you're coming from. 

 

 

I thought Perez was stronger on an earlier debate this season. He was not so strong tonight. But again, I feel like the Dems need to steer away from the establishment going forward if they plan on making ground w/ grass root voters. 

 

Yeah, Pete annoyed me. I like him, but I hate when politicians repeat the same points over and over again. It becomes waning overtime. I do think he'll become a force in the party down the line. I just don't see it now. 

21 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

I like Perez but I feel like he is too much involved in the establishment. Pete was doing too many talking points, and I grew tired of him bringing up Indiana.

I am so leery of Hispanics/Latinos. The majority care about the entitled white rich and ignore their fellow hispanics/minorities. The AA always for the most part stick together and support each other.

 

A friend of mine which is latino helped a fellow latino get elected for a position in my state. My friend called him shortly after his win because he needed some help and he wouldn't take his calls and totally ignored him. Talk about lack of gratitude.  And they have been friends since childhood.

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Bill Maher on video defending sex between a 35 year old teacher and a 12 year old boy. "How can a woman rape a man?"

 

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40 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

I thought they were very insightful and some good people could possibly emerge as the new chair head.

I think I am off the Ellison and Perez bandwagon. Harrison, Buttigieg, and Jehmu were the standouts.

32 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I am so leery of Hispanics/Latinos. The majority care about the entitled white rich and ignore their fellow hispanics/minorities. The AA always for the most part stick together and support each other.

 

A friend of mine which is latino helped a fellow latino get elected for a position in my state. My friend called him shortly after his win because he needed some help and he wouldn't take his calls and totally ignored him. Talk about lack of gratitude.  And they have been friends since childhood.

 

Well you have to remember too that many Latinos are White and somewhat rich (i.e. the Cubans). Latinos have a huge problem with accepting their mestizo and African roots or counterparts. 

 

I do think that we (African Americans that is) stick together politically, but we have our issues in other facets of life though. 

 

20 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I think I am off the Ellison and Perez bandwagon. Harrison, Buttigieg, and Jehmu were the standouts.

 

The mods pissed me off on how they wouldn't allow Jehmu or Sally explain their points, but allowed the men to somewhat go overtime a lot. It wasn't lost on me. 

5 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

Well you have to remember too that many Latinos are White and somewhat rich (i.e. the Cubans). Latinos have a huge problem with accepting their mestizo and African roots or counterparts. 

 

I do think that we (African Americans that is) stick together politically, but we have our issues in other facets of life though. 

 

 

The mods pissed me off on how they wouldn't allow Jehmu or Sally explain their points, but allowed the men to somewhat go overtime a lot. It wasn't lost on me. 

Jehmu also was the only one who mentioned the misogyny in Hillary's candidacy.

Just now, JaneAusten said:

Jehmu also was the only one who mentioned the misogyny in Hillary's candidacy.

 

Which isn't shocking for me. I doubt Jehmu or Sally win it. My gut is telling me that it'll be Keith. Jaime, Tom, and Sam might possibly get it. 

DNC Chair is a tactical position more than anything else and it does take someone with some establishment experience to be chair.

 

I'm glad that he is yet another member of the press who is very good at stating the obvious. Journalism in action. 

 

What I'd love to know is why I keep seeing articles praising oh so clever Republican Congressman for finding "ways" to appease or avoid confrontation with people at town halls. I sure don't remember that when these town halls went after Democrats in 2009 and 2010. I remember endless breathless coverage of Democrats under siege from "real" Americans. 

I am not here for Keith Ellison AT ALL. He is one of those people that think being a Democrat/progressive deserves some sort of purity test. Will he understand that Democrats are a party that have to cater to several different factions? There are the uber-liberal Democrats in the Northeast and West Coast, the religious conservative Democrats that get elected in majority black districts in the South, the Democrats that have to be center right in the Western plain states. I just do not think he has a 50 state strategy. Him and the rest of the Bernie people are annoying as hell. Running to the far left only alienates more voters and will cause disastrous results in 2020. Bernie would have lost worst than Hillary, but due to Bernie's demagoguery his little fans still think he was "robbed" and that he is an angel.  

 

At the end of the day, a president should have the cautious pragmatism that Hillary had. Running to the hard right or left like Trump and Bernie only alienates the opposite sides and only appeases the interests of <40 percent of the country. She may have been the wrong candidate, but she had the right message.

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