10 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Yeah, I considered not posting it but did so because I thought it was important to document this incident for those who troll the board and think that these alt-right neo Nazis are just harmless folk with 'not mainstream' believes just exercising their right to free speech. They are not and I wanted to show an incident where this was the case.

 

Also, it is the opinion of the victim to see it the way they want to see it. I do not agree. I feel absolutely no sympathy for Richard Spencer and those of their ilk. People are free to speak their minds, even express views that are reprehensible by most people with a sense of humanity- but they also must face the fact that there are often consequences and that one of them is being challenged by people who vehemently disagree and a few times there may be the odd confrontation. I'm not going to waste time trying to understand a mindset that I consider beyond the pale.

 

Thankfully most people on this board (except for a few trolls) are discerning enough to parse through the opinions, however warped they may be, at times and dig through to find the cogent facts that are actually pertinent to our discussions of today's events. 

 

I appreciate the idea, although I have a feeling there won't be a response...

https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-at-trumps-inauguration-it-was-tiny/

8 hours ago, sivad40 said:

Here's comes the wall and mass banning of refugees and immigrants.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/24/politics/donald-trump-immigration-refugees/

 

I just love that idiot's tweet: "Big day planned on NATIONAL SECURITY tomorrow. Among many other things, we will build the wall!"

 

Uh, you do realize walls are not built in a day?

Edited January 25, 20178 yr by Khan

27 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Yeah, I considered not posting it but did so because I thought it was important to document this incident for those who troll the board and think that these alt-right neo Nazis are just harmless folk with 'not mainstream' believes just exercising their right to free speech. They are not and I wanted to show an incident where this was the case.

 

Also, it is the opinion of the victim to see it the way they want to see it. I do not agree. I feel absolutely no sympathy for Richard Spencer and those of their ilk. People are free to speak their minds, even express views that are reprehensible by most people with a sense of humanity- but they also must face the fact that there are often consequences and that one of them is being challenged by people who vehemently disagree and a few times there may be the odd confrontation. I'm not going to waste time trying to understand a mindset that I consider beyond the pale.

 

Thankfully most people on this board (except for a few trolls) are discerning enough to parse through the opinions, however warped they may be, at times and dig through to find the cogent facts that are actually pertinent to our discussions of today's events. 

 

The truth is that there's plenty of nihilism on both sides and those nihilists will show up to any protest either as provocateurs to make us look bad or because they just want to watch the world burn. I don't approve of Spencer getting punched because the next person who gets punched might just be some innocent person in the wrong place at the wrong time. The person who punched Spencer was very likely from the same anarchist group that broke windows during the march. These are the people who get other people killed. 

 

That said, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't watching all the video of Spencer getting clocked set to music: http://www.thefader.com/2017/01/23/richard-spencer-punched-to-music-memes. I'm rather partial to the one set to Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On."

2 hours ago, GMac said:

Breaking "news" - Trump is calling for a full investigation into voter fraud.  

 

Good.  For his sake, I hope they find some evidence that supports his ridiculous belief.  Of course, he'll also destroy what little faith we still had in the voting process, but I guess that's inconsequential to that fascist.

2 hours ago, GMac said:

If the church is going to continue to push it's congregations to the polls and advocating for one party over the other - it's time to tax them.

 

Yep.

47 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Yeah, I considered not posting it but did so because I thought it was important to document this incident for those who troll the board and think that these alt-right neo Nazis are just harmless folk with 'not mainstream' believes just exercising their right to free speech. They are not and I wanted to show an incident where this was the case.

 

Also, it is the opinion of the victim to see it the way they want to see it. I do not agree. I feel absolutely no sympathy for Richard Spencer and those of their ilk. People are free to speak their minds, even express views that are reprehensible by most people with a sense of humanity- but they also must face the fact that there are often consequences and that one of them is being challenged by people who vehemently disagree and a few times there may be the odd confrontation. I'm not going to waste time trying to understand a mindset that I consider beyond the pale.

 

Thankfully most people on this board (except for a few trolls) are discerning enough to parse through the opinions, however warped they may be, at times and dig through to find the cogent facts that are actually pertinent to our discussions of today's events. 

 

Thank you, DD, for bringing our attention to this story.

14 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

The truth is that there's plenty of nihilism on both sides and those nihilists will show up to any protest either as provocateurs to make us look bad or because they just want to watch the world burn. I don't approve of Spencer getting punched because the next person who gets punched might just be some innocent person in the wrong place at the wrong time. The person who punched Spencer was very likely from the same anarchist group that broke windows during the march. These are the people who get other people killed.

 

Agree.

Yet again this man is enabled and given money...

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/robby-mook-corey-lewandowski-speaking-engagements-234157

3 hours ago, GMac said:

Breaking "news" - Trump is calling for a full investigation into voter fraud.  

 

Why? He got pissed when Jill Stein did an investigation on the vote. Whatever. Like I said yesterday, let's vote again if he wants to do so. He's never gonna win the popular vote. Never. 

If there was a re-vote, he'd lose the Electoral College as well. He won it by 70k votes across three states decided by less than 1%.

3 hours ago, Khan said:

Thank you, DD, for bringing our attention to this story.

 

You're welcome.

 

@marceline I did see the video of the neo Nazi punch set to Beyoncé's rendition of the national anthem and admit I chuckled both times I watched it.

 

Speaking of bizarre clips that cause a chuckle (or not), I came across this bizarre article while reading something else completely different but curiosity got the better of me.

 

Kellyanne Conway’s stand-up comedy routine has been unearthed, and it is atrocious

Edited January 25, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

I wonder if the MSM will mention this.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud?CMP=fb_gu

 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

 

makes complete sense with the child we now have in the WH.

It will be interesting to see the excuses made by Repubs who vote against it.

And people thought Hillary was corrupt and greedy.

 

This feels like the calm before the inevitable storm

Even Tiffany Trump was registered to vote in two states. Trump needs to be aware of what he is unleashing with these allegations and just how many in his own circle are likely get snagged for some fraud that he claims is rampant but is actually quite limited to a miniscule number of people-- in the two cases that were uncovered, both got caught and both were Republican.

 

These lawsuits should be named and Trump should be publicly shamed. This behavior should never be normalized.

 

Trump hit with $2 million suit by contractor on D.C. hotel