The Politics Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

OMG @marceline. Those ads look like the ads that those ambulance chasing law firms used to put on television. Maybe not Giuliani level lazy but it sounds like Turner ran a very poor campaign. Thanks for giving a summary. 
 

 

[Khan]

Reading this reminded me of the time Y&R's Christine and Danny tried to help a "crack mother" see the error of her ways.  I realize Bill Bell and Kay Alden had the best of intentions with that story; nevertheless, something about it has always left a bitter taste in my mouth.

IKR?  I kept expecting to see someone pop up on screen and say, "This is my wreck - and Nina Turner got me my check!".

[DramatistDreamer]

Man, am I glad to have missed those episodes of Y&R, that sounds disastrous.

[Khan]

Like I said, I'm sure Bell/Alden had the best intentions - and I give them props, too, for not making the "crack mother," Nan, a WOC AND for having the courage to show viewers actual "crack babies" being cared for at the hospital.  But, to me, it also seemed to reinforce some conservative attitudes toward poor women who have the misfortune of becoming pregnant while strung out on a drug that was literally robbing this country of an entire generation in the '80s and '90s.  (And Christine's constantly spouting stats straight outta some pamphlet or textbook didn't help matters either.)

[Juliajms]

Just that "we" were using terms like "crack baby" is disgraceful.

 

Speaking of which this idiot was trying to incite a jihad by committing war crimes.

 

[DramatistDreamer]

It has always been my contention that CBS was the most conservative of the networks, particularly during the daytime and Y&R was the most conservative of the daytime dramas. As brilliant as WJB Sr. was in building a brand that created these shows that have endured, I must admit that I believe that him being a straight white man with a wife and children fit the ideal of who CBS wanted to make the face of their daytime serials and promoted as such.

[Khan]

It is.  I agree.  That's why I used parentheses.  I probably shouldn't have used the term at all, though.

Which is ironic, when you consider how, at least in the beginning, Y&R was very racy compared to other soaps.

Which is why I call bullshit on a certain poster's revelation in another thread that CBS had asked him to create an all-Black soap in '73 or whenever.  No way.  Not in 1973, not at CBS, and definitely not with William J. Bell.

Edited May 6, 2022 by Khan

[DramatistDreamer]

Hm, I would have to see some documented proof on a statement like that.

Had that statement been made about Agnes Nixon that would have been more believable. We already know there were reports that Irna Phillips wanted a daytime soap with a majority Black cast.

To be fair though, it feels like the Reagan years of the mid 1980s could have been when it felt like this push became a thing. And when Y&R became the #1 soap in the late 80s, that further cemented things. Looking back, I do think Y&R got a nice helping of PR to help that drive. Bell being the show’s creator also likely made him appealing in a way that, perhaps, the other show runners weren’t.

Anyway, sorry for taking this thread off topic.

[DramatistDreamer]

We all knew the quest to overturn Roe v. Wade would be the tip of the iceberg.

[Khan]

Greg Abbott always looks as if he's made another poopie in his pants.

@marceline was right: this country cannot survive minority rule.  Sooner or later, it's all gonna end in bloodshed.

[Soapsuds]

You must have ESP.

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I will say his humping is a 5 at best. His cowa mumba noise making during it was annoying.

Nice backside but I can see why his wife got bored rather quickly.

I need to move to a more friendly state. Abbott is nuts!! The guy is pure evil.

[dragonflies]

 

[marceline]

I know how crass this sounds but...

...the reality is that being an reproductive rights sanctuary state will be good for the bottom line. 

Abortion is good for business on a lot of levels. That's an economic truth that people don't want to discuss.

[DramatistDreamer]

Ned Lamont is running for re-election this year also, but this is part of a continuing effort to solidify abortion rights in “The Constitution State”. Yes, it is known as The Constitution State.

[DramatistDreamer]

Elections in Ireland and Scotland and the bare minimum of reporting from the BBC.