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8 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

That white woman number against Clinton/For Biden is infuriating.

 

AOC seems to be realizing moderation is needed. She needs to talk to the 3 other members of the squad or maybe 2. Ayanna Pressley was Team Warren.

 

Michael Moore has been an opportunistic grifting *sshole for years. Whenever I hear him chastise the situation in Flint(and it is frankly monstrous) I keep thinking what has he done. He could do a film and raise money and awareness nationwide. Yet NADA.

 

Thank you for pointing this out because with the narrative that sexism was at play in 2016 with regards to HRC, let us not forget who consistently voted for both HRC and Biden and who did not.

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I shouldn’t laugh at these clips from some creepy 4chan Twitter account of the Young Turks live broadcast as Bernie loses, but putting the sad Cowboy Bebop music over it is just inspired.

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Bernie will do what is best for his brand, as he always does. I don't really care. He's an old con artist and narcissist to the end and the people who surround him are even worse. In this case I can't be that shocked because I think even he knows that his endorsement is not going to make much difference.

 

I had to hear last night all about how everyone needs to listen to Van Jones (the man who told us how Presidential Trump is) because Jones said that you need to reach these people who feel so disenfranchised, and on and on. It's time to accept some people can't and don't want to be reached. I was reading an article a few days ago about young socialists in Ohio who said they would vote for no one but Bernie, but it wasn't really about him anyway, politics won't fix anything and on and on. They are not Democrats, they don't believe in systems, and they don't really want anything that will challenge their worldview. These voters can't be reached. Most of the Bernie voters can't. There's no point in trying. Many Bernie supporters are currently on Twitter gloating about Trump winning in November and saying they want old people to die from COVID-19. Let them continue to have their bubble and focus on people who actually give a damn.

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I did read some of AOC's comments that Vee included. Not to be condescending, but I do feel like she has had a wakeup call over the last few months. She's not the same person who went out last year and told everyone that Bernie made her everything she is. I have to imagine that his truly toxic campaign people and the way they have badly damaged a movement which should have been in a much stronger position might have been a factor.

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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

Bernie will do what is best for his brand, as he always does. I don't really care. He's an old con artist and narcissist to the end and the people who surround him are even worse. In this case I can't be that shocked because I think even he knows that his endorsement is not going to make much difference.

 

I had to hear last night all about how everyone needs to listen to Van Jones (the man who told us how Presidential Trump is) because Jones said that you need to reach these people who feel so disenfranchised, and on and on. It's time to accept some people can't and don't want to be reached. I was reading an article a few days ago about young socialists in Ohio who said they would vote for no one but Bernie, but it wasn't really about him anyway, politics won't fix anything and on and on. They are not Democrats, they don't believe in systems, and they don't really want anything that will challenge their worldview. These voters can't be reached. Most of the Bernie voters can't. There's no point in trying. Many Bernie supporters are currently on Twitter gloating about Trump winning in November and saying they want old people to die from COVID-19. Let them continue to have their bubble and focus on people who actually give a damn.

It pisses me off. His supporters were the first to tell other people to drop out. Bernie should do the same now that he basically has no chance. Get behind the nominee. Of course those hypocrites won't, just like they didn't 4 years ago.

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Imagine if Barack Obama had encouraged Joe Biden to run for president four years ago.  Imagine where we'd be right now, instead of where we actually are.  As always, I'm just saying.

 

Frankly, I don't view the 2016 vs. 2020 numbers so much as proof of sexism amongst voters (although, I'm sure it's present) as it's proof that Hillary Rodham Clinton was just the wrong kind of candidate to put up against, well, anyone.  The media AND the GOP performed a decades-long hit job on the woman's reputation that paid off in the long run.  Plain, and simple.

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6 minutes ago, Khan said:

Imagine if Barack Obama had encouraged Joe Biden to run for president four years ago.  Imagine where we'd be right now, instead of where we actually are.  As always, I'm just saying.

Who knows? Maybe it would have turned out differently or maybe they would have split  the moderate vote between them. Biden does have some real negatives, after all. Those clips people are putting together of Biden putting his hands (and mouth) all over teenage girls give me the creepy crawlies, for example. So icky, so entitled. I would have voted for HRC over him any day. Nevertheless, next to Trump he looks like an answer to prayer.

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I knew Bernie could not be trusted to do what is best for the COUNTRY and bow out. Nope, he still has to play spoiler. All about his ego. Trump of the left, indeed.

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