Members Cat Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 For rewriting Maria's stuff? For encouraging Y&R actors to write their own scenes? Or does BB just want more active involvement in the day-to-day running of Y&R? (Not contesting what you are saying, just asking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phloeishot Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Ok, come on, NB? Really? You think she has enough clout at DOOL? She's not a vet. (plus she loves working with JKJ; it was one of the reasons she came back this time) I have an idea of who ES let rewrite their lines but I'm not going to say b/c it's probably a Vet and someone who is part of a very popular couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 First, let's get confirmation. I'm going to pursue this idea...because there ARE times when desperate times call for desperate measures. You are saying this SOLELY on "guild" or "union" lines, right? You SOLE justification for this is to preserve professional lines, right? For example, if Scott were a WGA member, you wouldn't care, right? Again, I just want to confirm that this is because of the alleged WGA violation, right? === See, here's the thing. FIRST, Ed Scott has been established as an interventionist. He departure from Y&R EP all that time ago was due to battles with Kay Alden that he lost. So, I think it is reasonable to suspect that he did some of the same things with Alden that he is doing with Higley. MOREOVER, apparently Sony VALUED that interventionist streak so he could clean house at DOOL. In the press, the more public conflicts with Alden were over characters (Jill's boytoy Sean, and Dianne Jenkins), but it must have been much worse...given that press at the time said there was a "who is in control" battle going on. SECOND, Ed is a directing-interventionist too, since he is widely known to give actors' notes that would typically be within the director's purview. THIRD, it was clearly to reign in this interventionist streak that, when Scott return to Y&R, it was as a "supervising producer", and to have him report to Jack Smith--who was clearly both EP and HW. Translation: I'm sure Ed CONTINUED to have writing suggestions, but he could now funnel them through Smith in a legal way. FOURTH, by all accounts, Ed Scott in that slightly diminished role with Jack Smith as a go-between between writing and production worked pretty well. It didn't fall apart until LML came in (and, one imagines, disregarded and defanged Ed Scott). Okay, now, why would Ed Scott disregard union rules and intervene in writing? Let's assume he has respect for the guild. But if the show begins to devolve more and more and more and more into sh*t...and the person who SHOULD be a go-between (Ken Corday) is not functioning well in that role, and he has been charged by Sony to fix things, and NOBODY IS LISTENING TO HIM...you can finally imagine him grabbing control of the wheel for the good of the show! Now, IF A UNION WERE NOT INVOLVED, would everyone be so incensed? If not, is this a place where union protectionism comes at the cost of the show? I am a pro-union liberal...but there are times when I believe union rules can be strangleholds. What if this is one of them? And finally--actors re-writing...let's be HONEST. This happens DAILY. Public offenders include Tony Geary, Eric Braeden, Nancy Lee Grahn, and Elizabeth Hubbard...and many others, I am sure. So, since it happens all the time (and gets accepted as "actor's reinterpretation under the pressure of rapid memorization" and "actors as custodians of their characters, trying to make things sound more consistent with their characters"...why is it okay in these instances, but not here at DOOL? Please don't flame me? . I'm really just asking respectful, nosy questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 That's a change of tune. I seem to recall you saying quite the opposite only a few days ago. But good - Josh is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Those actors don't write entire storylines (though they have immense say in the direction they go). Ed had tons of actors and non-union people rewriting about all of Dena's work, which is totally illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 If it can be proven that ES allowed actors and actresses to throw out complete stories.......the Guild may actually be able to sue Days, NBC and maybe even Sony for allowing this to happen. This is the biggest clusterfuck I can think of happening in daytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Huh? I've always wanted Griffith gone, what are you saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 This is how it's done in UK and Australia - there are no veterans and any such divisions. Those writers can kill anybody off. Look at EastEnders and Pauline Fowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrorat Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 I can totally see SN/MBE and NB being possibilities in this. Not so sure about Lauren Koslow. I know that the Kate/Daniel thing was a sudden shift, but that may have been due more to Lexie & Abe being given the autism storyline instead of Lexie having her usual affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 and thats how it should be. the fact that people of power like EP's not only allow but ENCOURAGE this to happen is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 The part about Maria not getting along with Josh. That's a new one to me. I never heard you say that before. I say - first to go is Nikki (Y&R). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RobynIsHere Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Were you going to say Kristian Alfonso? Because that's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thank you for putting into words (better than I) my questions/uncertainty about this whole situation. The part I bolded was what I was trying to get at (but couldn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Isn't it apparent if he's been rewriting all her stuff these past few months? I wonder if Melody knew what her husband was doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 28, 2008 Members Share Posted July 28, 2008 Mine was Deidre Hall. Oh, please no! I like Melody Thomas Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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