On 8/16/2021 at 7:49 PM, j swift said:

To me, that was what was so fun about the character.  Terry Davis' April on EON was sickeningly sweet, she had to turn a blind eye to Raven's (almost) incestuous flirting with her husband Draper, and then she had to give up the super sexy Logan when said husband returned from the dead.  I appreciate when actors are cast against type in soaps, and having her play this snooty, mean, conceiving character was perfect. 

The plot was an obvious rip off of the 1985 Glen Close movie Jagged Edge, a defense lawyer falls for her client who was accused of killing his wealthy wife, only to find out later that he was guilty (spoiler alert for a 30 year old movie).  But, they had to change the resolution so it was not completely plagiarized.  However, showing the murderer on the day of the crime as being nowhere near the crime scene was a total cheat.  We saw the murderer being told about the crime in front of others and, unless that person teleported, there was no way to get from the motel to the residence.  It sours the experience for a mystery audience when the solution is implausible given the setup of the crime.

I just watched this episode. Yeah Madeline is dead. And Kirk has the heart of a ruthless beotch. It seems to me that they planned on David being the killer right away. Before he was even officially in town, they were showing his cigs. CC tried David at home and office and had him call him back. He wasn't officially in town until after the story broke in the papers, which would have been the next day.

Never even was aware that Don Rickles show existed. Huh! Louise Sorel was also once married to actor Herb Edelman. He occasionally played a detective on Murder, She Wrote but will forever be known to millions as Stan Sbornak, feckless ex-husband to Dorothy Sbornak, on The Golden Girls!

And Louise had a role in the infamous primetime disaster'The Survivors'. Would be interesting to hear more about that also.

24 minutes ago, Wendy said:

Never even was aware that Don Rickles show existed. Huh! Louise Sorel was also once married to actor Herb Edelman. He occasionally played a detective on Murder, She Wrote but will forever be known to millions as Stan Sbornak, feckless ex-husband to Dorothy Sbornak, on The Golden Girls!

And he was in St. Elsewhere. He married Nurse Rosenthal.

51 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

I just watched this episode. Yeah Madeline is dead. And Kirk has the heart of a ruthless beotch. It seems to me that they planned on David being the killer right away. Before he was even officially in town, they were showing his cigs. CC tried David at home and office and had him call him back. He wasn't officially in town until after the story broke in the papers, which would have been the next day.

OK, but once you get to the actual resolution of the mystery, go back to this episode and you'll see that it was implausible that the murderer could get from the scene of the crime to where they were shown within the episode...

38 minutes ago, j swift said:

OK, but once you get to the actual resolution of the mystery, go back to this episode and you'll see that it was implausible that the murderer could get from the scene of the crime to where they were shown within the episode...

Oh, okay. That's gonna be a bit.

I actually came to GH to watch Lane and Nancy together around 2004? It was during a hotel fire there which was supposed to be a huge deal. They quickly got rid of Lane, nothing happened... I actually probably watched for another year after that right through the end of Tamara Braun's stint.

I'll be honest and say that while I liked Julia and Mason together, I think the pairing diminished her character in the same way that Eden being paired with Cruz diminished her character.

40 minutes ago, Lex S said:

I actually came to GH to watch Lane and Nancy together around 2004? It was during a hotel fire there which was supposed to be a huge deal. They quickly got rid of Lane, nothing happened... I actually probably watched for another year after that right through the end of Tamara Braun's stint.

I haven’t watched GH in a really long time but I recall them ironically giving NLG a Mason/Julia-lite pairing right after Lane was let go from the show. Feuding lawyers constantly bickering and facing off against each other.  

52 minutes ago, Lex S said:

I actually came to GH to watch Lane and Nancy together around 2004? It was during a hotel fire there which was supposed to be a huge deal. They quickly got rid of Lane, nothing happened... I actually probably watched for another year after that right through the end of Tamara Braun's stint.

I think Lane first aired on GH in late 2002. He left in 2004.

10 minutes ago, Beach Climber said:

I haven’t watched GH in a really long time but I recall them ironically giving NLG a Mason/Julia-lite pairing right after Lane was let go from the show. Feuding lawyers constantly bickering and facing off against each other.  

His character was actually a psychiatrist, but it was the same kind of vibe.

13 minutes ago, Beach Climber said:

I haven’t watched GH in a really long time but I recall them ironically giving NLG a Mason/Julia-lite pairing right after Lane was let go from the show. Feuding lawyers constantly bickering and facing off against each other.  

GH quickly killed him. Like they did many a character back then.

5 hours ago, Wendy said:

Don't get me started. I think LD/NLG STILL had great chemistry as Cameron and Alexis, but then the stupid fake DD crap and "Dobson" (UGH!) ruined everything.

I never read about Lane Davies saying that, but if he did, awesome! I do know GT raved about SB and Mason in many an interview.

Plus, Cameron had a long-lost, estranged son already on the canvas - the very popular Zander. I wanted them to explore that relationship because there was so much history there. Alas...

I know burnout and a fraying relationship with NLG hastened LD's exit from the show and I wonder if he would have stayed to the end if things had been better. Personally, I can't see him playing out the Sasha story, the Cassie story or Ballymoor. He really did get out while the going was still (mostly) good from a story standpoint.

37 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Plus, Cameron had a long-lost, estranged son already on the canvas - the very popular Zander. I wanted them to explore that relationship because there was so much history there. Alas...

I know burnout and a fraying relationship with NLG hastened LD's exit from the show and I wonder if he would have stayed to the end if things had been better. Personally, I can't see him playing out the Sasha story, the Cassie story or Ballymoor. He really did get out while the going was still (mostly) good from a story standpoint.

The only thing I recall him wanting for Mason was conspiring against CC and acting shady. I can understand not wanting your character to become boring but that side of him got old fast and I hated when they resurrected it when the Dobsons returned in the 90s. 

4 minutes ago, Beach Climber said:

The only thing I recall him wanting for Mason was conspiring against CC and acting shady. I can understand not wanting your character to become boring but that side of him got old fast and I hated when they resurrected it when the Dobsons returned in the 90s. 

As I have said before, I know this show was the Dobsons' "baby", and they were denied access for years, but wrong or right, time marched on, writers evolved the characters, so inexplicably taking them backwards because the Dobsons seemed to want to forget everything that happened in their absence did the show and the characters absolutely no favors.

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

I'll be honest and say that while I liked Julia and Mason together, I think the pairing diminished her character in the same way that Eden being paired with Cruz diminished her character.

I feel you there but then sadly I think this is a pattern that holds true to most soaps.
Female characters that are established with a strong personality very rarely survive a super-pairing with their strength intact.
As a matter of fact, I'd argue that even *regular popular pairings* are somehow tied in soap writers' minds with softening a female character to the point of non-recognition. See what they are doing to Ava on GH right now because the pairing with Nikolas is popular for instance.
In any case, I believe you are right. But it was probably worth it on balance.