They said something about him having trouble with working class and senior citizens

He has had that problem since the beginning of the race. That is one of his weak points. But hopefully when the dem. nom is finally decided all dems will come together to prevent Bush III.

And Roman I wouldnt Gloat too much. There are reports Obama is in trouble if he cant get the right people to vote for him against McCain. So McCain might reign on your party.

First of all, I don't owe an explanation to you if I'm gloating or not. No matter how much I disagree with Devoted, I feel I owe him an explanation, because he and I have been going at this from day one.

I know what the facts say. And all I keep hearing about is what Obama can't do. With the very same people honestly thinking that Hillary is going to get the number of people she needs.......while having the highest negative rating of anyone whose ran for POTUS.

I guess I'll just overlook that.

We are talking about being more formidable, not how one is more punctual and more professional

My God.

Like talking to a brick wall.

They said something about him having trouble with working class and senior citizens

And she has trouble with young voters, more wealthy voters and blacks.

The one category that matters the most (all of them matter, of course) is who is more formidable against McCain and beating him by more..that is Hillary. I hope SDs look at that to make sure they vote for who can win it by more.

Exactly DevotedToAMC. Great point!

No problem with it at all. But when posters start heckling someone else for adoring Hilary...well it bugs the hell out of me. Seriously, so what if Hilary is losing...do you have to GLOAT over it every post ....DO YOU??

True Soapsuds/Ron.

And Roman I wouldnt Gloat too much. There are reports Obama is in trouble if he cant get the right people to vote for him against McCain. So McCain might reign on your party.

True Ron, that's why they need to have Hillary head the ticket and Obama be the VP.

And she has trouble with young voters, more wealthy voters and blacks.

Thats true also. In a way I think hillary/obama need each other to get those votes the other one needs.

I truly believe that if the party does it the way some of you want them to do it, they are done.

The primaries would mean nothing.

But.......have it your way.

I am liking your thinking, EK70. Let them be the ticket to keep Hillarack alive!

However, I think she is doing better now with young voters

True Ron, that's why they need to have Hillary head the ticket and Obama be the VP.

Many are saying Obama needs Clinton as VP to have any chance of beating McCain.

I am liking your thinking, EK70. Let them be the ticket to keep Hillarack alive!

However, I think she is doing better now with young voters

Just because I think they should do it doesn't mean obama will do that. I do think if hillary is the nom there is no question that obama would be her vp.

And she has trouble with young voters, more wealthy voters and blacks.

That doesnt matter to get her elected if she were to run against McCain. Since Obama will be the nominee he needs those Bluee collar workers..which he is NOT getting. If he doesnt get those he will NOT win for President. Hillary GETS those voters.

Many are saying Obama needs Clinton as VP to have any chance of beating McCain.

That would be correct. More Hillary supporters will go for McCain if she is not on than Obama supporters would if he was not on the ticket.

Just because I think they should do it doesn't mean obama will do that. I do think if hillary is the nom there is no question that obama would be her vp.

Yea but he would be smart to pick her as VP since too many supporters of her are going for McCain if she is not on that ticket...and I don't think they will accept anyone else on as VP (assuming she is up for VP)

Since Obama will be the nominee voters.

We don't know that yet

Thats true also. In a way I think hillary/obama need each other to get those votes the other one needs.

Thats the only way I can see Obama winning. Some say that if Hillary is chosen the newness will fade away from Obama. But he needs those blue collar workers that are voting for Hillary.