Not only did she know about it she played into it WV was all about Obama being black.

Tricks like this is why many Blacks will never forgive her like Gay peeps did.

The Clintons treated Gays like totally TRASH and broke every promise they ever made and most are still backing Hillary over Obama.

Mostly because he didn't stop that anti-gay preacher from appearing at his event.

look I did not like Clinton signing DOMA but it was going to be law...if he vetoed it, it would have been overridden and he would have no choice but to sign it into law. Don't Ask, Don't Tell is the most protection gays have had in the military...it is not right that they should be quiet on sexuality while heterosexuals can preach about their sexuality all the time.

Hillary is not responsible for what the supporters say...and I doubt she played into it because I have seen her speak in person and she is not that kind of person.

Here is an article from Hillary's WV win:

CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Hillary Rodham Clinton coasted to a large but largely symbolic victory in working-class West Virginia on Tuesday, handing Barack Obama one of the worst defeats of the campaign yet scarcely slowing his march toward the Democratic presidential nomination.

"The White House is won in the swing states. And I am winning the swing states," Clinton told cheering supporters at a victory rally.

She coupled praise for Obama with a pledge to persevere in a campaign in which she has become the decided underdog. "This race isn't over yet," she said. "Neither of us has the total delegates it takes to win."

Obama looked ahead to the Oregon primary later in the month and to the general election campaign against Republican John McCain, but the West Virginia defeat underscored his weakness among blue collar voters who will be pivotal in the fall.

"This is our chance to build a new majority of Democrats and independents and Republicans who know that four more years of George Bush just won't do," Obama said in Missouri, which looms as a battleground state in November.

"This is our moment to turn the page on the divisions and distractions that pass for politics in Washington," added the man seeking to become the first black presidential nominee of a major party.

With votes from 42 percent of West Virginia's precincts counted, Clinton was winning 65 percent of the vote, to 28 percent for Obama.

Clinton's triumph approached the 70 percent of the vote she gained in Arkansas, her best state to date. It came courtesy of an overwhelmingly white electorate comprised of the kinds of voters who have favored her throughout the primaries. Nearly a quarter were 60 or older, and a similar number had no education beyond high school. More than half were in families with incomes of $50,000 or less, and the former first lady was wining a whopping 69 percent of their votes.

Clinton won at least 15 of the 28 delegates at stake in West Virginia, with 13 more to be allocated.

That left Obama with 1,875.5 delegates, to 1,712 for Clinton, out of 2,025 needed to clinch the nomination at the party convention in Denver this summer.

Even so, Clinton's aides contended that her strength with blue-collar voters — already demonstrated in primaries in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana — makes her the more electable candidate in the fall.

In her remarks, Clinton said, "I deeply admire Sen. Obama," but she added, "our case is stronger." She said she had won roughly 17 million votes in the primaries and caucuses to date.

Clinton arranged a meeting with superdelegates for Wednesday. About 250 of them remain publicly uncommitted.

The delegate tally aside, the former first lady struggled to overcome an emerging Democratic consensus that Obama effectively wrapped up the nomination last week with a victory in the North Carolina primary and a narrow loss in Indiana.

He picked up four superdelegates during the day, including Roy Romer, former Democratic Party chairman.

"This race, I believe, is over," Romer told reporters on a conference call. He said only Clinton can decide when to withdraw, but he added: "There is a time we need to end it and direct ourselves to the general election. I think that time is now."

Only five more primaries remain on the calendar, beginning next week in Kentucky and Oregon, then Puerto Rico on June 1 and Montana and South Dakota two days later.

There's another important date on the calendar, though, the May 31 meeting of a convention committee that will hear Clinton's appeal to seat the delegations from disputed primaries in Florida and Michigan.

Clinton has long argued to have the delegates seated — a decision that would cut into Obama's delegate advantage — even though the primaries were held so early in the year that they violated Democratic party rules.

In recent weeks, Obama has signaled a willingness to compromise on the issue as he has become more confident of his ultimate victory in the fight for the nomination.

Clinton and Obama briefly shook hands on the Senate floor Tuesday after interrupting their campaigns for a few hours to vote on energy-related bills.

In the days since, close to 30 superdelegates have swung behind Obama, evidence that party officials are beginning to coalesce around the first-term Illinois senator who is seeking to become the first black to win a major party presidential nomination. Three of his new supporters formerly backed Clinton, who surrendered her lead in superdelegates late last week for the first time since the campaign began.

In his appearance in Cape Girardeau, Mo., Obama sketched the case against McCain. "For two decades, he has supported policies that have shifted the burden onto working people. And his only answer to the problems created by George Bush's policies is to give them another four years to fail," he said.

Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said in response that Obama's rhetoric showed "more of the same negative, partisan politics that have paralyzed Washington for too long. Barack Obama talks about change and bipartisanship, but he has never showed the leadership needed to bridge party divides."

Clinton had spent parts of several days campaigning in West Virginia in search of victory.

She refrained from criticizing Obama directly, but had a cautionary word nonetheless for party leaders who seemed eager to pivot to the fall campaign. "I keep telling people, no Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning West Virginia," she said at Tudor's Biscuit World in the state's capital city.

Obama was in the state on Monday, but it was clear he was looking beyond the primary.

He said several days ago he expected Clinton to win by significant margins in West Virginia and then in Kentucky, which holds its primary next week. He devoted more time to Oregon, which also holds a primary next week, and announced plans to campaign in several other states that loom as battlegrounds in the fall against McCain.

Among them are Florida and Michigan, two states that held early primaries in defiance of national Democratic Party rules. The two combined have 44 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, and Obama has not yet campaigned in either.

Obama also broke from his usual practice by wearing a flag pin on his suit jacket. He told several thousand people at the Charleston Civic Center that patriotism means more than saluting flags and holding parades.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Edited May 14, 200818 yr by DevotedToAMC

Not only did she know about it she played into it WV was all about Obama being black.

Tricks like this is why many Blacks will never forgive her like Gay peeps did.

The Clintons treated Gays like totally TRASH and broke every promise they ever made and most are still backing Hillary over Obama.

Mostly because he didn't stop that anti-gay preacher from appearing at his event.

Wow.

Really? I didn't know this stuff went down. Is that why the gay community has such a problem with her?

Here's another artivle about Clinton.

From ABC News:

Clinton Chair Praises Fox News, Says 90% of the Media in the Tank for Obama

May 13, 2008 3:31 PM

On Fox & Friends -- a show we last mentioned, I believe, after it repeated the false smear that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was educated in a madrassa -- the affable Terry McAuliffe appeared this morning to explain the difficult delegate math that would lead Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to the Democratic nomination.

McAuliffe was asked by one of the hosts "what percentage of the mainstream media is in the tank for Barack Obama?" (Watch HERE.)

"Oh, 90 percent," quoth the Macker. "I mean, from day one. It is what it is -- we're not complaining, we have to deal with the hand we're dealt with...''

The hosts pleaded with McAuliffe to complain.

"It doesn't do you any good," McAuliffe demurred. "You know what - every independent study has said that this is the most biased coverage they have ever seen in a presidential campaign. Clearly it has been a biased media, no question about it. I have said this - Fox has been one of the most responsible in this presidential campaign -- I have said that all along.''

- jpt

And another about how ell Hiilary is doing.

From Seattle PI.com:

Obama leads in Oregon

A trio of new polls show Sen. Barack Obama with a substantial lead as voters mail in their ballots in Oregon's May 20th presidential primary.

In a statewide survey taken Friday and Saturday, when both Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton were campaigning in Oregon, independent pollster Tim Hibbitts found the Illinois senator leading 55 percent to 35 percent.

A SurveyUSA poll has it a little closer, but Obama with a 54-43 lead. A third independent poll, by Public Policy Polling, put Obama in the lead by 14 points, 53 percent to 39 percent.

"Obama is sweeping the under-54 voters by a 2 to 1 margin," said Hibbitts, who surveyed 400 voters across the state. "Clinton is winning the over-55 voters, but the contest for their votes is a lot more competitive than other states."

Hillary Clinton spoke Thursay at the Jackson County Fairgrounds outside Medford. Ex-President Bill Clinton spent three days, stumping for his wife at Newport and Astoria on the Oregon Coast, and at Redmond in Central Oregon.

Obama held big rallies in Albany and Eugene on Friday, and spent Saturday courting Central Oregon voters in Republican-leaning Bend.

Both Obama and Hillary Clinton are expected to return to the Beaver State before next week's primary.

And here's just one more for the great stride Hillary nmade tonight.

From Bloomberg News:

Clinton's Wide Margin in West Virginia Won't Cut Obama's Lead

By Laura Litvan and Karen Leigh

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May 14 (Bloomberg) -- Hillary Clinton won an overwhelming victory in yesterday's West Virginia primary that did little to dent Barack Obama's lead in the Democratic presidential race.

With more 90 percent of precincts reporting, Clinton captured 67 percent of the vote and the bulk of the state's 28 pledged delegates. She vowed to continue through five remaining primaries, even as Obama turns his sights on Republican John McCain.

While Clinton called the result ``a vote of confidence'' in her candidacy, Stephen Wayne, a professor of government at Georgetown University in Washington, said it won't alter the trajectory of her campaign or Obama's.

``Superdelegates are continuing to announce for him. Calls for her withdrawal are getting more persistent. The die has been cast,'' Wayne said before the vote.

Obama has scored a net gain of about three times as many superdelegates in the past two weeks as Clinton's expected gain of a net of about 10 delegates with her big West Virginia victory yesterday.

Obama has won endorsements from 40 Democratic superdelegates since the beginning of the month, including 27 since last week when he won in North Carolina and narrowly lost Indiana.

By comparison, 10 superdelegates have declared for Clinton since the start of May. After starting the year with twice as many superdelegates as Obama, Clinton now trails the Illinois senator among the party officials and officeholders who get a vote at the national convention. Obama has 285 superdelegates to Clinton's 274.5, according to lists and public announcements from both campaigns.

Delegate Totals

Adding in pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses, Obama's total delegate count is 1,875 to 1,712, according to an unofficial tally by the Associated Press. A candidate needs 2,026 to win the nomination.

With five primaries to go awarding 189 pledged delegates apportioned according to the popular vote, Clinton has almost no chance to catch up, analysts said.

``Obama has the nomination,'' said James Thurber, director of the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies at American University in Washington. The only way he could falter is if ``he completely loses his message discipline or an unanticipated scandal occurs.''

The next contests are May 20 in Kentucky, where polls show Clinton with a commanding lead, and Oregon, where Obama is ahead. Primaries also are set for June 1 in Puerto Rico and June 3 in Montana and South Dakota. Clinton last night reiterated that she plans to campaign for every one.

Carrying On

``I am more determined than ever to carry on this campaign until everyone has had a chance to make their voices heard,'' the New York senator told several hundred supporters in Charleston, West Virginia. She had kind words for Obama, telling her audience that even though they were rivals, ``we have always stood together on what is most important.''

Obama limited his appearances in West Virginia as he turned attention to swing states that will be important in the November election against McCain, an Arizona senator who is the presumptive Republican nominee.

Obama campaigned yesterday in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and never mentioned his Democratic rival. He told voters at a manufacturing plant that McCain ``has supported policies that have shifted the burden away from special interests and on to working families.'' He said a vote for McCain is a ``vote for George Bush's third term.''

Focus on Economy

Today he will be in Michigan, another likely general election battleground. He is keeping his focus on economic issues and pitching his candidacy to working-class voters, a group that has gravitated to Clinton in primaries. Among his stops are a visit to a Chrysler plant in Sterling Heights, a town hall in Warren and an evening rally in Grand Rapids.

Clinton is still pressing for the party to recognize the results of primaries in Florida and Michigan, which were stripped of their delegates by the Democratic National Committee for holding contests earlier than allowed by DNC rules. While she got majorities of the vote in both states, neither candidate campaigned and Obama withdrew his name from the Michigan ballot.

Obama's advisers have rejected any plan that would seat the two delegations as now configured.

The West Virginia primary gave Clinton a chance to make her case that she has greater appeal to white working-class voters, a group that Obama has had trouble attracting and that she argues is vital to Democrats in the general election.

``The bottom line is this: the White House is won in the swing states and I am winning the swing states,'' Clinton said last night.

By staying in the race, Clinton also can continue to raise money. The New York senator's campaign is $20 million in debt, according to spokesman Howard Wolfson. She and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have loaned the campaign $11.4 million to keep it going.

Obama has raised $234.8 million through the end of March and had $42.5 million to spend on the primaries.

A SurveyUSA poll has it a little closer, but Obama with a 54-43 lead. A third independent poll, by Public Policy Polling, put Obama in the lead by 14 points, 53 percent to 39 percent.

You can believe Public Policy Polling but I have just seen them be unreliable

Is that why the gay community has such a problem with her?

Well she is getting a lot of support from the GLBT community...I think, of the recent presidents, Bill Clinton protected them the most even with the Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy. That was not a huge triumph but it did offer some protection for gays serving in the military. I think, under President Clinton, we saw less discrimination against gays in the workforce.

You can believe Public Policy Polling but I have just seen them be unreliable

I'll believe any poll that seems fair. Not just the ones that have Hillary or Barack in the lead.

You know.

Like the Survey USA poll that had it wrong.

Survey USA had her winning WV-she won...they have her ahead in Kentucky-she will win it. They are pretty accurate over who wins a state. I just do not put trust in PPP but you can if you want

Survey USA had her winning WV-she won...they have her ahead in Kentucky-she will win it. They are pretty accurate over who wins a state. I just do not put trust in PPP but you can if you want

And I don't trust Survey USA.

Period. End of story.

and that will be our disagreement to end the night

No. We'll just edn the night.

Until tomorrow's BS.

There is plenty of BS to go around in politics