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2008: The Directors and Writers Thread

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James Harmon Brown, Barbara Esensten last listed as Co-Head Writers;

Julie Hanan Carruthers last listed Executive Producer

Felicia Minei Behr first listed as Executive Producer

Lorraine Broderick first listed as Co-Head Writer

Jeff Beldner/Michelle Patrick listed as Co-Head Writers

This is my dream for AMC in 2008. :P

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James Harmon Brown, Barbara Esensten last listed as Co-Head Writers;

Julie Hanan Carruthers last listed Executive Producer

Felicia Minei Behr first listed as Executive Producer

Lorraine Broderick first listed as Co-Head Writer

Jeff Beldner/Michelle Patrick listed as Co-Head Writers

This is my dream for AMC in 2008. :P

Amen!

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^Maybe Hogan and Dena left extensive outlines and storyline projections before they left, which Corday and Scott are forcing the scab writers to stick to faithfully.That was the case with AW during the last strike...

I dunno about that. While some stuff (the Jamie/Lisa/Vicky story, the intro of Evan Frame) was obviously planned out pre-strike, most of AW during the strike seemed pretty much like make-up-as-you-go filler.

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I dunno about that. While some stuff (the Jamie/Lisa/Vicky story, the intro of Evan Frame) was obviously planned out pre-strike, most of AW during the strike seemed pretty much like make-up-as-you-go filler.

I heard Harding Lemay left a Bible that was followed faithfully by Donna Swajeski during the 88 strike....

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You are right about the short fixes. For me, the last consistently good tenure was JER's first run at DAYS. It was 5 years of good storylines. He didn't have one down year at all. We don't see those type of long runs anymore. :(

I agree Toups, but that was because JER was doing something never before done in daytime. The stories he wrote were perfect for the 90s, and as DAYS adapted its ratings went way up. When you think about it, soaps also adapted to the 70s (more independent, career-driven female characters), the 80s (larger-than-life hair and clothes, more romance). Is the current ratings problem because nobody innovates anymore? What is the style of this decade? We don't know because no soap has defined it. Instead of someone braking with tradition like JER did, everyone relies on quick fixes.

We need another JER (which is why I love the Vincent/Valerie storyline on PSNS, because it's definitely something that has never been done before, and as crazy as it is, it's brutally honest at the same time.)

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I heard Harding Lemay left a Bible that was followed faithfully by Donna Swajeski during the 88 strike....

AFAIK, Lemay and Swajeski were warring powers during his one month tenure. She had become accustomed to the HW powers during the strike and didn't like not having them when he came back.

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These days, it's about quick fixes, and then everyone either burns out or 'loses' it. It's disappointing, to say the least.

If daytime hired successful writers I doubt they'd be burning out so fast.

Honestly, at this point, I think it's beyond hiring successful writers. For those of you who don't know, Robbie Baitz was recently forced out of the show he created, Brothers & Sisters. Why? Here's at least one reason, from his blog on The Huffington Post: "I can... only watch as the demographic demands that have turned America into an ageist and youth-obsessed nation drives the storylines younger and younger, whiter and whiter, and with less and less reflection of the real America. I will never again have to do a notes call wherein the fear and seasickness of the creative execs always prevail over taking a risk, resulting more often than not in muddy and flattening or treacly sweet compromises."

It's not about writing or creating anymore. It's about writers appeasing the executives with what the executives think viewers (and advertisers) want to see on television. Or, even worse, simply implementing the executives' vision, with no personal stamp. You wonder why daytime is so bad? If someone like Robbie Baitz, who also has a two-pilot deal with ABC, can't get his personal vision produced, how much luck do you think a daytime headwriter is going to have?

You can read more at the TV Guide news blurb here.

You can read his two part blog post on the subject here: Part One, Part Two

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Finally the boards back up. LOL

Y&R:

- Anthony Morina last listed as Producer on January 3

- Anthony Morina first listed as Supervising Producer on January 4

- Paula Cwikly back as Writer on January 4

- Sally McDonald first listed as Producer on January 4

Paula was the Fi-Core I was talking about a couple weeks ago. :)

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I guess I'll post here what I posted on the back-up board, even though I aleady got a reply from Toupsy. ;)

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Sally so deserves this promotion!!!! I've been saying it for weeks now, it looks like they've listened to me. LOL!

It's tragic that Morina gets bumped up to Supervising Producer though, but hey you can't have it all. But really, what does a supervising producer do other than supervise the other producers on the show?

I'm surprised they didn't bring in an outsider to become the new producer, instead they promoted someone who has been there for years. Feels like the old Y&R way again......

Was it Sony, Bell, or Griffith's move to promote Sally? I can't imagine Latham doing it....

Also, it looks like Latham probably won't be back after the strike, I can't imagine her too happy with the behind the scenes changes at the show and the much better way Y&R is written these days.

Could a new Executive Producer be on the way?

Also, could it be possible that Latham's already fired and they're waiting until after the strike to announce it? Force majeure time is already here....

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Finally the boards back up. LOL

Y&R:

- Anthony Morina last listed as Producer on January 3

- Anthony Morina first listed as Supervising Producer on January 4

- Paula Cwikly back as Writer on January 4

- Sally McDonald first listed as Producer on January 4

Paula was the Fi-Core I was talking about a couple weeks ago. :)

Most interesting about Paula. Thanks Toups.

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I guess I'll post here what I posted on the back-up board, even though I aleady got a reply from Toupsy. ;)

And I too will copy/paste what I said. LOL

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Sally so deserves this promotion!!!! I've been saying it for weeks now, it looks like they've listened to me. LOL!

You so called this....I guess you got your wish. LOL

It's tragic that Morina gets bumped up to Supervising Producer though, but hey you can't have it all. But really, what does a supervising producer do other than supervise the other producers on the show?

That's a good question.

Maybe Morina is doing more of Josh's job (now that Josh is HW the show) and then Sally will be doing what Morina did.

I'm surprised they didn't bring in an outsider to become the new producer, instead they promoted someone who has been there for years. Feels like the old Y&R way again......

Yup, promoting from within was always the Y&R way. I'm happy for Sally. She's the last high ranking person from the Bill Bell era.

Also, could it be possible that Latham's already fired and they're waiting until after the strike to announce it? Force majeure time is already here....

Once Griffith went Fi-Core I knew that Latham would be gone. And then SOW and Michael Logan also reported on it which made it pretty clear that Latham won't be back. :)

BTW.....nice avatar!! Congrats, Sally!!!

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Question, is that female writing with Josh related to the Bell family? I think her name is Maria or something?

I tuned into Y&R yesterday and watch without judgment for the first time since May and......I loved it.

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Question, is that female writing with Josh related to the Bell family? I think her name is Maria or something?

I tuned into Y&R yesterday and watch without judgment for the first time since May and......I loved it.

I think she is one of William's son's wife. Bill Bell Jr., right?

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I think she is one of William's son's wife. Bill Bell Jr., right?

Yes. I expect someone else to ask the same question again on the next page. ;):D

Maria Arena Bell, 43, of Los Angeles, has been appointed to the Commission on the Status of Women. She currently serves as a freelance writer, where her essays have been published in The New York Times and C Magazine. Bell previously worked for Bell Phillip Television as a fashion consultant and writer for the television programs “Bold and the Beautiful” and “Young and the Restless” from 1988 to 1993. This position requires Senate confirmation and there is no salary. Bell is a Republican.

More about her here. :)

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