Everything posted by Paul Raven
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Characters: The Aborted & The Wasted
Ok .How do you recast Geraldine Page??
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Murder, She Wrote
Poor Doris only found out that she was signed to do her series after her husband died and being the professional that she was she gave it her all. I think that dear Marty had worked his way through most of her money and she had to do the show to get back on a stable financial footing. the day production finished she leapt for joy and headed for the hills. She was also mentioned in a Falcon Crest spinoff set in a SF ad agency, although this probably went as far as a vague proposal sent her way which she promptly rejected. It would have been great to see her back in the 80's as she looked great. The most we could hope for is some TV movies about an animal loving lady crime solver. Why not? She had earned every cent by that time. How many times did we see movie stars talking about taking on a series because they loved the idea of the stability, or the scripts were so good etc when really they just wanted(needed) the bucks.
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Y&R February 2022 Discussion Thread
Re the podcast story, Billy and Lilly are super stoked with the idea which they name 'Second Chances' Lily tells Billy that his journey through alcohol addiction. gambling, failed businesses,affairs, and poor parenting will be an inspiration for listeners. Billy thinks he could be the voice of today's man and raise awareness and inspire conversations. Billy reflects and tells Lily as powerful as this could be, if they had a professional alongside, it would be resonate even more. What about Sharon? She would be perfect. Billy and Lily approach Sharon who is intrigued but not totally convinced. So she talks to Rey, Mariah, Faith,Nick and Adam who all agree she would be ideal. Elena agrees saying that although Ask MD is a huuuge commitment,it brings her so much satisfaction. Sharon commits and suggests they record the podcast after hours at Crimson Lights because it has such positive energy and Sharon has honestly helped so many people there. Sharon and Billy become close working together and begin to see each other in a new light. Due to her expertise Sharon diagnoses what's happening. Their one night stand of years ago is unresolved and there are some deep feelings resurfacing that must be explored if they are to move forward. Rey, sensing this moves closer to Chelsea. Billy decides to expand Second Chances to include other voices so each week another GC citizen will step up to tell their story and share their journey. Every Wed will now be 'Young and the Restless Second Chances', devoted to one much loved character reflecting on the incidents that shaped them into the fascinating, flawed and very human people we welcome into our lives each day. Look for intimate drama as one actor takes center stage along with flashbacks for the entire episode.
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Y&R February 2022 Discussion Thread
Many thanks Khan, you are too kind. But you may have unleashed a monster...I already have ideas for the podcast storyline...
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Y&R February 2022 Discussion Thread
Yes! The Genoa City Slasher. Lives are changed forever. A series of murders rocks GC.! Amanda is shattered when Amani is killed. She tells Devon how devastated Nya is. Amanda delivers a stirring eulogy against a wall with a photo of her sister and a bunch of flowers. In Devon's penthouse everyone talks about what a lovely service it was. Devon says Neil would have been proud of Amanda. Billy has blackouts and wakes to find a bloody knife in his possession. He buries it in Chancellor Park. A mysterious figure photographs him. Lily wonders why Billy is acting strange(r) But worse is to come. Phyllis is attacked in the elevator at Grand Pheonix. but survives. Jack declares his undying love. As Phyllis battles for herr life, everyone gathers at Grey Phallus to remember the lovable redhead and her crazy antics. Meanwhile in a special one off episode Phyllis has a near death experience and the living beckon her back because she is too wonderful to lose. Victoria notes Ashland is disappearing at odd times. Victor uncovers as series of killings years ago in an area where Ashland lived. Rey succumbs to Chelsea and they make love in her suite. Rey spots the killer but can't say too much as he would have to reveal he was with Chelsea. Sharon notices this and turns to Nick. The latest victim is a waitress at society that everyone liked (but we never saw) For a few episodes prior Abby talks about her. Nick suspects Noah could be the killer as he's acting strangely. Sally suspects Adam could be the killer as he's acting strangely. Chloe wonders if Kevin could be the killer as he's acting strangely. Michael announces that Eden is coming back to town .Lauren is thrilled. They get a call that she'll meet them at Society. Shockingly her body is found in an alleyway nearby. The killer is revealed. It's an old buddy of Billy's (Mitch)who blames him for wrecking his life .Billy fills Lily in on the backstory of when this occurred while he was out of town years ago. Jill pops in to reveal that she knew all about it and was paying Mitch to keep quiet. The blackmailer of Billy might have been the Mitch or not (it's never mentioned) The strange behavior of the others is never referred to. Master writer Josh Griffith has plotted this intricate web of shocks and twists while waiting in line at Starbucks,
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Stephen Eliot Pilots/Proposals Midas Valley Elias Markov 1985 Linda Purl Pilots/Proposals Midas Valley Sarah Corey 1985 James Read Pilots/Proposals Midas Valley Josh Landau 1985 Shanna Reed Pilots/Proposals Midas Valley Lillian Hammond 1985
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
To add to your workload ! Jesse Royce Landis Donald Linahan Pat Conwell Gary Hudson Michael Carvel Thanks in advance.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
It's always difficult when there is such a solid lineup for the network to know when to make changes that will revitalize the night before it fades. CBS moved MASH but had the Jeffersons ready to fill the gap. Then AITF was moved till 9pm Mondays and Jeffersons took over at 8pm. But the night was weakened by Doc at 8.30. And when MTM departed things went awry. Bob Newhart was moved to 8 and Jeffersons to 9pm with We've Got Each Other at 8.30 and Tony Randall at 9.30 and suddenly CBS Saturday was severely weakened .It took years for them to be competitive. ABC launched LoveBoat/Fantasy Island and NBC had a rare hit at 8pm with Chips. Maybe CBS should have put Betty White at 9pm Sat instead of Mon. That show started strong on Monday but soon weakened and was cancelled. Has anyone seen it? Was it any good?
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What's the best way to end a SOAP Episode?
It was always cool when EON, SFT and Y&R would play the vocal version of the theme over the end credits. I remember Search did these fairly often in the late 70's but for the others it was quite rare. I wonder why and when the vocal theme was used?
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Maybe someone needs to start a Murder She wrote thread. I wonder how the show would have done with Jean Stapleton in the lead. It would have a totally different feel for sure. MSW saved CBS on Sunday. All their 70's sitcoms found there way to Sunday night-Archie Bunker, Alice, The Jeffersons and One Day at a Time and with the 60 Minutes lead in, they thrived. Any attempts to slip in some new shows to build a hit failed (Gloria, Goodnight Beantown) But they were aging, MSW came along and revitalized Sunday night.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
The following week CBS aired People's Choice Awards Thurs 9-11 , filling the Knots timeslot and on Friday Wizard of Oz 8-10, pushing Dallas to 10pm, taking Falcon Crest timeslot. The week after CBS debuted 'The Missippippi' Fri @10 and it was an immediate hit. Thurs @10 saw 'Tucker's Witch' take Knots timeslot. It had bombed earlier in the season Wed @10 and was given another chance.
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Retro SOD Article: Bomb’s Away! Soaps’ Biggest Story Mistakes
They would have had to recast. Wasn't it Thom's choice to leave? Had Phillip stayed on would he and Nina re-united? Would he marry Cricket? A lot of Nina's stories could have been played even with Phillip around.
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What's the best way to end a SOAP Episode?
The Y&R style ending with a character closeup held tight and slowly fading is really classic soap so that's a vote from me. Expanding on that a bit, can we also talk about end credits (when they properly existed) Do you prefer 1. Credits rolling over the logo of the show eg Day's hourglass, a lighthouse (GL) floating clouds (SFT) etc 2. A scene (or scenes) continuing as some soaps used to do eg characters continuing a conversation with music overlay 3. Montage of scenes from that day's episode 4. Other
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Retro SOD Article: Bomb’s Away! Soaps’ Biggest Story Mistakes
Which shows the mindset of TPTB. It worked in 1983 ! Let's keep doing it!
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
Sept 27 Some highlights Mon won by CBS Square Pegs/Pvt Benjamin (Little House NBC won 2nd half hour)/Mpvie 'Drop Out Father' Tues won by ABC Happy days/Laverne and Shirley/3's Company/Hart to Hart Wed won by ABC Tales of Gold Monkey (beaten by Real People NBC) /Movie 'Money on the Side' Thurs won by CBS Magnum PI 2hr ep/Knots Landing (beaten by Hill St Blues NBC and 20/20 ABC) Fri won by CBS Dukes of Hazzard/Dallas/Falcon Crest Sat won by ABC TJ Hooker/Love Boat 2hr Sun won by CBS 60 Minutes/Archie Bunker/Gloria/Jeffersons/One Day at a Time/Trapper John(Beaten by Matt Houston/Movie 'Smokey and the Bandit 2 ABC and Bob Hope/Johnny Carson specials NBC)
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Y&R February 2022 Discussion Thread
Billy has insomnia. May I suggest as a remedy he watches the CBS daytime series 'The Young and the Restless'. Guaranteed to put you to sleep...
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Y&R February 2022 Discussion Thread
Kidnap you and replace you with a double who rapes your wife?.Forgiven and forgotten Arrange to have your rival's husband poisoned to frame yours? No worries, in fact it's kind of a turn on for the poisoner and victim who are inching towards each other. Try to murder the man who ran over your daughter? Go work for him. Get someone a job that they were free to turn down but chose to take and ended up loving it? Unforgiveable!
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Jeffrey Meek Santa Barbara Joe Perkins cast but replaced by Mark Arnold before he began taping.
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Good & Bad Soap Timeslots
Yes the LOL move seemed a deliberate move to hasten it's demise. This is a show that played at midday/11.30 for its entire run.To expect viewers to follow it to 4pm was a big ask. Also a lot of stations didn't take the 4pm feed so there was even less chance of ratings growth. Edge of Night suffered from a timeslot change in 1972. Since it's debut it ran at 4.30 and then 3.30 which suited the format-many men and students watched and the show was Top 5. Then P&G pressured CBS to move it to play with ATWT and GL and the ratings immediately dropped and never recovered. By the time ABC moved it to 4pm the damage was done.
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Dallas Discussion Thread
I really liked Callie /Cathy Podewell. My memories are fuzzy but yes, maybe she could have been a little smarter written. Giving JR an illegitimate child was a natural and it probably could have happened sooner. Never liked Sue Ellen and Valentine lingerie. That was dead end that took her out of the Ewing circle. She should have got involved in something that could affect Ewing Oil-maybe some environmemtal thing. Same previously with Lucy and Mitch. Lucy should have married a businessman involved in the oil business.
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Name a Critical Year on a Soap
1966/1967 NBC made changes that dramatically changed the fortunes of all 3 low rated soaps. DOOL Bill Bell is lured from ATWT to take over.He develops the Mickey/Bill/Laura story,Susan/Julie/David and Marie/Mark AW Agnes Nixon moves from TGL. Ditches the Gregory family,and introduces Rachel and Steve among other changes TD Rita Lakin becomes headwriter and ratings jump. Steve/Carolee/Karen.Althea/Nick By 68 NBC was competitive in those timeslots
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MTS and Ed Scott sell 90210 home
Not a fan of Tudor Style.All that dark wood . Looks like she had the Y&R set decorators do the interior. Someone noted in the comments that Elizabeth Scott the realtor is probably her daughter.
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Good & Bad Soap Timeslots
The 3.30 pm timeslot seemed to be the death zone for NBC soaps in the 60's and 70's. They had a solid competitive block of soaps (Dool, TD ,AW) from 2pm till 3.30 pm but could never build on that with a 4th soap. They tried Bright Promise, Return to Peyton Place and How to Survive a Marriage but no dice. It wasn't until AW expanded to an hour that they had success in that slot.
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Name a Critical Year on a Soap
Y&R 1980 Expanding to 60 min and changing timeslots put Y&R to the test. The ratings fell but Bill Bell perservered and creatively and ratings wise things got back on track.