Paul Raven

Aaaagh! More 'corporate' stories. Jabot will open a tech division. And hire back Billy. Nate will encourage Elena to join Chancellor. And so on... Much ado about nothing.

I agree. Hope it is worth it. I'm thinking back to Adam's return with MG where they had the chance to start with a clean slate but 5 mins later Adam is meddling with Victor's meds, Don't want to see Diane strutting around town issuing threats. At least Sally will get a break from being town pariah.

Yes, faked up drama for the sake of it. Paul got 2 mentions and I wondered if Doug would agree to return if there was a change of management? At the moment, he could have been a comfort to Lauren and involved in Chance's story. It was great to see Ashley back. But where is Nina? Something about her dialogue made me feel it was more suited to Traci and I wondered if Beth were not available and Eileen agreed to come in. Ashley was confronting Phyllis and being very protective of Jack in a way Traci might have done. Eileen made it work for her character, but still... Or is my imagination overactive today?

I know there has been a poster who addressed that situation before - those weird instances where time stood still in one story while others progressed. That was a little quirk of Bill's writing in those years. I wonder if it was one of those things that came up every so often in mapping out episodes and he'd say to Kay-'Darn it, let's just do it and the audience won't even notice and if they do so what'

Poor Susan Walters having to play that scene.

Father and daughter? It was never resolved

Just like the masks, the devil can become a go to plot point for years to come. Can't be bothered coming up with a decent plot? Just have the devil take over!

if they hadn't bothered with the pointless Rey/Sharon wedding Rey could join Paul at the GCPD. Now Sharon will have another failed marriage under her belt. When I saw the topic I thought Robert Newman.

Thanks for the extra info. I always recall that Southfork never had a front door. Everyone living there would enter via a doorway near the stairs - from the garages/car park I guess. When there were visitors, they were ushered into the living room, but we never saw them at the front door/porch. Am I misremembering?

Ep #4138 tape date Thurs June 15th 1989 air date Mon July 3rd 1989 Cast Brad John Mamie Traci Chase Scott Cricket Salena Jessica Tim Nina Lauren Rex Kay Esther Baby Phillip

Agree but this is something Y&R have always done. Katherine- Jill Foster will pay for what she has done! Nikki- How could Victor betray me with Ashley Abbott? etc

Thanks for that clip. Those verandah scenes are definitely shot on the lot. Especially noticeable when they enter the house and we see out the door an obvious painted backdrop. Also I'm sure the exterior of the FC house and interior shown didn't match the actual floorplan,as is often the case. Probably the exterior scene by the pool may have been shot on a location nearer to the studio. Makes sense they would find locations nearby that could stand in for the real thing, after the initial location filming was completed.

Dallas always shot the first few episodes of each season on location. I'm not sure for how long that practice continued. But I recall one episode where everyone was getting blown to bits in outdoor scenes due to the Texas winds, Victoria had to keep pushing hair off her face to deliver her lines. Then they would go back to that fake exterior backdrop of the ranch. Falcon Crest was always lush visually and the house and grounds were very much a character on the show. Did they have verandah scenes that were shot indoors?

Nick is wandering around unattached yet there is no interaction with Chelsea who was his romantic interest throughout 2017. Why did they break up? As dull as Chelsea/Nick were, wouldn't it make more sense for them to have some kind of involvement than pair Chelsea with Rey, who she tried to kill? And what happened to that story anyway? Chelsea was locked up but then her mom got sick and it was decided the only way she could be let out was to be guarded (by Rey-really? A GC policeman can just go off and babysit a mental patient?) Anyway Rey returns alone as apparently Chelsea is suddenly no longer a threat or a patient. When she returns everything is OK and there are no charges laid or further treatment required. Gotta love the Josh Griffith school of storytelling. Pesky details like logic, motivation and follow through? Forget about 'em and move on

As the poster who (inadvertently) ignited the drama on the OLTL thread, I hope that we can all move forward. We are here because of love/interest in soaps and really in the overall scheme of things it's just some fun and escapism. Like any community there are clashes, things said that perhaps shouldn't be and so on. But we all keep coming back. So@allmc2008 I hope you decide to post and know that you've chosen to bring some positivity and enjoy being able to share those treasures. End of speech.

Victoria in one sleeved dress at CL while Nick is in overcoat. Phyllis in one sleeved dress at Grubby Peanut. Lauren goes sparkly for reunion at CL. But at least it has 2 sleeves. Note to costume department - please do better.

This story, with the inclusion of somewhat shady research doctors would be a great addition to any such story. They could mix in with the devoted nurse who might develop ulterior motives for maybe keeping Gunnar from reconnecting with his past. It would also complicate things for Henry, as well as Barbara, Dusty, and anyone in Oakdale who remembers Gunnar. Throw in Vienna Hyatt who is still in love with Henry and has an interest in seeing him happy (but with her) and it could have been fun. Yes, Gunnar's return was a story waiting to be told on ATWT, especially as Barbara was a long term character who had been through a lot and this fitted into her history. Your outline sounds interesting and very 'old school' soap. However ATWT at that time would have probably cast a totally unsuitable ABC actor on a short term contract to be a vengeful ex who caused havoc and was quickly forgotten!

Charo was everywhere in the 70's and 80's, guesting on variety shows and sitcoms (often as herself) but never managed her own starring vehicle. In the 70's there was both a sitcom and variety series proposed.

NBC tried a Sanford and Son spinoff 'Grady' in which Whitman Mayo's character moves to Westwood to live with his daughter and her family. It lasted from Dec 74-March 75. Bizarrely they placed it at Thurs @ 8 up against The Waltons, which was Top 10 at the time and Welcome Back Kotter. It got a passable 30 share for it's debut but went down from there. NBC had only 2 comedies - Sanford and Chico and the Man and were trying to expand on that. Trouble was all the good slots were taken. When Grady was axed, Whitman returned to Sanford.

Alan - So Ellen was an original character-that's wild! Do you remember putting on that very first show? Patricia-No, Ellen was there from the start but I came on a few years later to replace Wendy Drew. Alan - Ok. I just realized my name is Alan and you played Ellen - that's crazy!

Agree. Multiple marriages can work if it fits the character. John Abbott didn't seem to have been married multiple times but he was wed to Dina, Jill (twice) Jessica and Gloria. For Nikki to be on her 3rd marriage by the time she wed Victor seemed in accord with her flighty nature (although some of her later marriages shouldn't have happened) But Ashley, Jack and Victoria stand out as having way too many trips down the aisle.

So Chris Rock makes a lameish joke and Will takes it upon himself to use violence to 'defend' his wife. Did Jada have anything to say about this? Or does Will feel it's a man's responsibility to punch someone to protect a woman? Would he have slugged a woman had she made the joke? Pathetic and embarassing. So?

I stopped watching as the show went to color after the death of Ann Howard and Alison leaving. The character of Rachel had just been introduced. I'll have to get back into it.

Having long term characters marrying 5 or 6 times is ridiculous, especially when some of them were pointless. Victoria declaring her love for Ashland was hard to buy when she had been down that road so many times. And marrying Kyle and Summer was not needed..

Faith could idolize him and follow some bad advice that leads her into trouble. A rivalry with Noah? Has the hots for Sally? Maybe he had some association with people from Tessa's shady past and causes problems for her and Mariah. Seems like a character that could be involved in a lot of stories. Now all we need is a charismatic actor and good writing...