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A round of +1’s too all! This reminds me of what a deeply confusing, yet fascinating time the early 00’s were. In soaps, in politics, in fashion, in pop culture...When all is said and done, it’s hard to even say how this era will be remembered. Haven’t seen too much nostalgia for it at all that’s for sure. Speaking of media from that era Justin Timberlake is also getting well deserved major pushback as well between Janet Jackson Appreciation Day for the Super Bowl and the Spears documentary as the media has been so easy on Timberlake to give him free passes: https://www.buzzfeed.com/ehisosifo1/justin-timberlake-britney-spears-problematic-moments No wonder his marriage to Jessica Biel is allegedly on the rocks at the moment.

Diane Sawyer is facing major backlash over a harsh 2003 interview she did with Britney Spears: https://www.newsweek.com/diane-sawyer-backlash-britney-spears-interview-2003-1567902 https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/britney-spears-diane-sawyer-interview-231202374.html

Gloria Marsh profile: 1991: Nurse Gloria Marsh arrived in Pine Valley with revenge on her mind. Her fiancé, Craig Lawson, had left her with no reason and pile of bills. She got wind of his latest plot to siphon off mourning widow Dixie Cooney’s vast trust fund. Craig begged Gloria to keep silent. She would only agree if Craig agreed to continue their affair. Things began to change when Gloria actually met the kindhearted Dixie. She felt guilt over her affair. But already, she was in too deep and did not know how to find her way out. 1992: When Gloria’s involvement with Craig was revealed, she became an outcast in her new town. While getting drunk at a roadside bar, Gloria met Will Cortlandt. She flirted openly with Will but was not expecting anything more. Will was not about to be led on, and raped her that night. When Will was found dead in his apartment, Gloria was among the many suspects investigated. Gloria took refuge in Wildwind as personal nurse to the recovering Angelique Marick. Gloria’s new position in Wildwind helped to her to recover some of the dignity she had lost in as a result of her very public indiscretions. 1993: Gloria began working at the hospital again. There, she met kind Stuart Chandler. Gloria fell in love with Stuart. But, his brother Adam Chandler had other plans for her. Adam promised to give Gloria everything that she ever wanted. Gloria tried to be content with her relationship with Stuart, but Adam was always in the back of her mind. On the day she was to marry Stuart, Gloria admitted that she had feelings for Adam. Instead, she and Adam married on his yacht, Fidelity. But Adam and Gloria’s happiness met an early hurdle. Adam experienced paralysis as a result of a car accident. Adam hired Alec McIntyre to take care of his affairs as he recovered. Alec shamelessly flirted with Gloria. She did her best to keep true to her marital vows. One night, Alec and Gloria were stranded in a snowstorm. At Adam’s cabin, Gloria gave in to temptation. Alec promised that he would leave town after they made love. Only, Alec liked the new arrangement and reneged on his promise. 1994: Gloria thought Adam was missing. Really, he had faked his disappearance upon learning of her affair with Alec. He was masquerading at Chandler Mansion as Stuart. When Gloria found out the truth, she plotted her own revenge. Upon Adam’s miraculous return, they were to remarry in a lavish ceremony at the Valley Inn. At the ceremony, Gloria told Adam that she would not marry him if he were the last man alive. At that moment, a tornado came crashing through. Gloria watched as the tornado destroyed the inn. At the end of day, Gloria announced that she would be leaving Adam. But the break was not as clean as she hoped. She was now pregnant with his child. 1995: Gloria was devastated when her baby, Anna Claire Chandler, died soon after childbirth. In a psychotic state, she blamed Adam for the baby’s death. Adam caught her trying to poison him. Gloria went to Oak Haven to recover from her loss. 1996: Gloria comforted Tad after Dixie left him. Gloria was the only person in Pine Valley Dixie had remained in contact with. Gloria felt guilty because she began to have feelings for Tad. 1997: Gloria had fallen in love with Tad. But she could not get past his history with other women. When Gloria found out Liza Chandler was pregnant, she wrongly came to the conclusion that Tad was the child’s father. Gloria turned to her old friend Dimitri. Dimitri had just broken up with Erica Kane. Both friends learned to lean on each other. Dimitri surprised Gloria with a proposal. She accepted though her heart still belonged to Tad. Dimitri told Gloria they were going to his native home in Hungary, Vadzel for their long awaited honeymoon. Really, Dimitri was on the run with Madelyn Grey. He had just learned that Madelyn was not his daughter. Dimitri’s brother Edmund Grey and Tad snuck into Vadzel to reclaim Madelyn. Tad convinced Gloria to read the paternity test. When she realized Madelyn was Edmund’s daughter, she begged Dimtiri to give up the child. Gloria remained in Vadzel to comfort Dimitri, but he pushed his new wife away. 1998: At the first annual Crystal Ball, Gloria watched Dimitri confront Tad and Edmund at gunpoint over his embarrassment at Vadzel. Gloria stopped Dimitri from hurting them. After a heated argument, she told her husband their marriage was over. Gloria tried to clear her mind at the hospital. A storm hit Pine Valley and caused a major bus accident. As Gloria tried to tend to the victims, con man Ryan Lavery tried to make it appear as if he was on the bus too so as to cash in on the settlement. Gloria saw through Ryan’s act. But before she could do anything, Dimitri was admitted after a tree branch at Wildwind fell on him. He was in need of blood, and the hospital was out. Gloria realized Ryan was a match. She threatened to turn Ryan in to the authorities if he did not give her the donation she needed. Gloria stood vigil over Dimitri until he awoke from his coma. When he awoke, she gave him her wedding ring, and left Pine Valley forever.

Season 4 is currently filming and is expected to come out in April but now the show has been renewed for a fifth season as well for the 2021-22 season: https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/dynasty-season-five-early-2021-22-renewal-for-cw-reboot-series/

Thanks for sharing, I had the feeling the interview was going to mention the cult Chopping Mall lol(I think the same folks that did Night of the Comet did Chopping Mall as well). It’s a shame she didn’t mention any of her five soap roles.

LOL. This is the part where I wish the show had actually kept Dina on longer than they originally did and have her become more of a vibrant long term character instead of popping up every few years after spending lots of time in spas with younger men or whatever the excuse was. I have read the show almost brought on Marc’s kid sister Danielle Mergeron (think Cricket’s age I guess, maybe even as old as Lauren/Traci) can’t even imagine how that would’ve gone down had they done so. As far as penthouses go lol I hadn’t even thought about that but then again Dallas also gave April a glamorous penthouse as well around the same time too.

Thanks for sharing!!! Just a few thoughts: —This was Amy’s ‘88 exit? I am glad she at least got something as opposed to just disappearing and of course we got her brief 1990 return. Oddly enough 16 years later in 2004 Lynne was given a similar exit as she had leave to help her mother in Ohio or something. - I have seen glimpses of it before but ED’s brunette hair just looks unnatural on her. In fact the hair is so straightened for the late 80s I’m trying to tell if she was actually wearing a wig or not. - How much longer was Marc on the show? His 87-88 return always struck me as odd and from what I can tell it was much ado about nothing about Marc and Joanna’s affair as both SSH and Frank M. Bernard are only three years apart in age. Marc was basically a Dynasty reject on Daytime instead. -The shots of Cassandra that Paul fantasizes about are basically a prelude to how Cassandra and Brittany Norman will later appear in the opening credits of 1988-91

Agreed. I still can’t JER to this day had Katherine Noone’s character on Passions PEE on her daughter’s wedding dress to sabatoge it.

Same with Kyle Lowder as Brady and Jason Cook as Shawn-D by that point 🤣 The first actor who replaced Clarke was too horrible for words; very obese and that’s when they gave Mickey, Julie, and Bonnie were that disgusting chili cookoff story where Mickey and Julie ended up crapping their pants. Then the show recast with John Ingle Clarke left because he wanted to retire, but I wonder if the SSK was too much for him at the time.

James easily could have built a bond with the Hughes women over coffee of course! Then when Bob has his affair with Susan we would have seen either Kim or Nancy personally ask James to have one of his hitmen execute Susan. 😉🤣

Regarding James Stenbeck I had always wondered what would have happened if the show gave Stenbeck some type of reform like Roger on GL or Carl on AW while maintaining a hard edge or transitioned to a Victor Kiriakis type of antagonist. I believe Herrera could have pulled it off. Instead we ended up with a Stefano DiMera type supervillain over time. Herrera did have a dry sense of humor, and that helped bring energy to the proceedings of his later returns as absurd & poorly written as they were. I don’t think daytime ever got to see another side to him though as his other roles on Y&R and as Dane on Loving were just as inimical as well.

LOL at the Holden clones. I think the worst one Marland introduced later on was Hutch. Beau was an interesting addition to the show. Neil Maffin wasn't a bad actor, and while the angsty folksy/pop singer is a cliche, he was at least different from the other young guys on the show at the time. I also liked his relationship with Pam Dixon, who was a believable, sympathetic, intelligent heroine. I think because of the strike or the change in producers he got lost in the shuffle, and he had that strange exit where he sort of got involved with Nella Franklin and they left town together, but not romantically? I wonder if they cut him because they thought Duke was that "type" and they didn't need another.

This is from 12/1/2000 when the show finally decided to start some type of rivalry between Nikki and Jill; I don’t believe Nikki and Jill had ever had such an encounter before: https://youtu.be/V9WgpLOJczE

I remember there being controversy on the web when one of the soap mags or something called Amy Carlson “Best Recast of 1998” when Carlson subbed for Ehlers and it opened up old wounds...22 years ago instead of being united P&G soap fans spent energy arguing about who was the best&worst of the three 🤦

LOL wasn’t Gary & Josie criticized for being on AW a complete rip off of Mallet & Harley?

The funny thing about RC’s Mike is how they initially teased him with getting paired up with Marlena in late 1994 to the point maybe a dinner date was involved? I can’t remember except Mike being indirectly involved with DiMera at the same time. RC Mike and Carrie interacted briefly for Alice’s funeral in 2010 but as I recall because Mike had been revealed to be an abusive/neglectful father during the 2007 Jeremy story the show left his 2010 return be open ended and have him be undeserving to be there ie he didn’t get to see Alice before she passed.

I can’t imagine HT Victoria playing out any of AH’s stories for the most part at all. Maybe the initial Brad and JT affair storyline but HT getting hit by a biscuit? Just no.

Loved watching this, thanks for sharing! Holly and Gilly were definitely such vibrant women. I had mentioned a few pages earlier how a March 1990 ep made Stingfield look quite older as Blake however a year later this episode does a much better job of styling her better a year later. Eh I never cared for Uncle Stavros though...I think they should’ve kept Pops Cooper around instead.

All three debuted the same day? That’s interesting! Catherine Mary Stewart looks styled too old for he age lol. I remember her best from the movie Night of the Comet.

Michael Crawford is another character difficult to keep track of his stories, timeline, and appearances. Of course he was Jill’s lawyer & lover there 1985-87 but he also had that elusive Mandy Kemper on the side. Then by ‘88-‘89 he was back again in Jill’s life to the point that Jill was hoping to get married to him and of course was involved in the Skip & Carol adoption story and then fades out for good sometime in early 1990. I wonder if Bell ever had long term big plans for the character.

Oh yes, the fight at the Embers!! I was happy ED was the one to resolve the story and actually breathe life into it.

Actually Perry’s Rosanna had become a complete bitchy villainess by the time of her final run in 1999 I could easily have seen Perry’s devolved Rosanna with at the very least HB’s Craig, although Perry wouldn’t have the depth that McClain brought to the role at the time. Personally for myself on Y&R I can’t imagine either ED’s or BED’s Ashley ever hooking up with Cole and be in a triangle with Victoria. That would be beneath both Ashley’s but of course it happened under SS’ Ashley. I definitely can’t see Davetta Sherwood’s Lily ever getting paired with Cane at all LOL. As for B&B I definitely can’t see Nancy Sloan’s Katie be in anything that Heather Tom has done in the role, Sloan was too noisy. Likewise I can’t imagine any of the previous Thomases kiss a mannequin or fake in their death in a possible vat of acid. Their 1992 scenes together at Christmas and for Andy & Courtney’s wedding felt extremely awkward.

I forgot Parros was on Y&R, was that his first soap role? I wonder if he was cast for being on Knight Rider at that time? My Y&R anniversary book says 1986-87 for Parros tenure but as previously discussed the cast listings in the book often very inaccurate so he may have left earlier.

Thanks! That’s good to know he was still being referenced. I know from what I have seen of Carol in 1992 she kind of seemed unhappy working for Victor so I imagine she quit and then was replaced by the Connie Wayne character who just never became vital(although the second actress to play Connie had some modest acting & TV hosting success outside of Daytime)

Speaking of Todd Curtis when did he leave Y&R exactly and did they even write Skip out? I remember reading several years ago something about Skip died in a motorcycle accident offscreen but I that must have been someone’s fan fiction masquerading as a fact as I have found nothing about Skip ever leaving, kind of like how Carol just stopped appearing in late ‘92/early ‘93.