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I’m annoyed Nathan’s exit story had him become the villain in the story. I can understand what lead to the affair after all the stress Olivia & Nathan went through, the hatred and disgust with the HIV scare was well warranted but kidnapping was out of character. Why didn’t Nathan just leave town for a couple years with maybe a couple pop up visits in between? Funny when the show brought back Lazarre-White in 2000 at least Olivia met Nathan in heaven.

Sheesh, that's too bad as he a lot of 1986 stuff I rewatched months back. All these services have gotten nuts this past year, don't even start me on Hulu.

Indeed it was. Wonder if they will also perhaps re-air Camryn Grimes’ Emmy win ep since that was entirely pre-empted as well.

I love seeing Mari Jo on my big screen again too, so underrated. This video below was an early appearance of hers as she spun her web of duplicity and fitting into Genoa City. I definitely think the haunting/chilling score that plays over her scenes starting @9:46 in the video below definitely suits her mysteriousness:

She first left in the fall of 1989 but then came back in late summer/early autumn 1990 before leaving again late summer 1992, with short term returns in 93, ‘94, and 96. I had wondered why Traci was never recast but by the time Traci was leaving out in the early 90’s with so many ladies like Nina, Christine, Dru, Olivia, and Victoria in play the character Traci had been eclipsed.

Wow did I hear the Genoa City theme while playing in a scene with Lynn, Nina, Olivia and Gina? Wow didn’t realize it was still being used this late! It is nice whenever these episodes reference moments we’ve seen during these run of classic eps. 😁 LOL Mary Williams 🤣

He may have been let go from GL as that was time of when the show was starting to transition into the Kobe/Long era and the show lost a lot of characters who had been there for a good number of years including Ben & Eve. But P&G also kind of shuffled their acting pool around as well. Per Drueding's site, Yates played Jaime from August 3, 1983 - July 29, 1985. I think reception to him in the role was pretty mixed at best. That reminds me, before all that Ehlers mess showed someone mentioned Curt Dawson who played Holly's one time fiancé Peter (between engagements with Maya Waterman) and also was on AW. Dawson unfortunately passed away a couple years later as an early victim of AIDS.

The first I remember reading about Eve was back in 1998 when SOD posted all those old 1978 synopses on their website, and from what I read up(and later seen) she was she definitely a damsel in distress/"Perils of Pauline" type character. I guess it was nice for Rita to have another family member in town but she was definitely too sweet with her share of stalkers on top of it. As for Yates after he left AW that was pretty much it for his acting career aside from a few prime time guest gigs. I think I remember someone saying Shipp and Kasdorf were good friends with Yates back then I wonder if they have kept it touch at all.

Apologies as I know some of this has been shared before but the masquerade ball drawings are so cheesy and easy to laugh at:

Thanks it took for the longest to realize he was David’s goon. I believe Izzy had also helped him craft the the Big Jim Adams persona too. The best of Mari Jo:

I love Barton as Mari Jo. Mari Jo was definitely the show’s femme fatale, she was so mysterious and collected it’s too bad she didn’t stay longer on the show.

Exactly. Similar to Florida’s situation Myrtle Beach has become a Petri dish really between already ill locals and tourists coming from all over. McMaster is too spineless and ineffective to do anything about it as long as he pushes it off onto others.

Thanks for the research indeed!! Jay & Cindy are another pair of lost Y&R recurring side characters unfortunately. I’ve tried scrolling through the IMDB before to dig up info on some folks like Nicholas Walker’s guest stint in 1988 and trying to find out who the hell Izzy Adams was. For the record, these were the Crimson Lights Barista guys: Jay 1994-99 Cody Dixon 1999-2004. This was Brody Hutzler’s character. Trevor O’Connell 2004-2005, but prior to this Trevor had been an occasional Newman ranch hand dating back to 1999. I think he may have been Cody’s cousin or something. Dylan 2005-Appeared in close to 100 eps that year. I can’t remember the actor’s name but if I recall right he was related to someone big on the show lol.

@Soapsuds Holden first saw that painting in the famed 5/5/93 Marland tribute episode, this must have been very shortly after that, maybe 5/7/93? Anytime I see Glynnis Margo I just grimace. How I remember some these details and not some of my own passwords is a great question really....

I remember that too later on but there was an episode of where Holden discovered Caleb had anger management issues and Julie had devolved into a constant party girl or something so he convinced Caleb to let Aaron stay in Oakdale which happened before he met Lucy during Abigail’s trial. It was pretty unflattering to both Caleb & Julie,

If I recall right I think Aleksander started around in June 1982 around the same time as Phil McGregor started as Freddy/Rick. Edit: Oh I see someone posted it above! 😁

@kalbir I had read once that was the rumor but it seems Bonneville Broadcasting was always pick & choose over what offended them so who knows. You're definitely right on the money about KIRO not wanting to give up that noon hour, even today: 9AM: LMAD 10AM: TPIR 11AM: Y&R 12PM: News 1PM: The Talk 2PM: B&B KOMO and KING were powerhouses in Seattle for the longest, I imagine that still is true but I'm not sure. BTW when KSTW was CBS from 1995-97 they ran Y&R at 3PM after GL from a September 1996 schedule I found.

We are doomed here in South Carolina: https://www.cbs17.com/news/6-states-issue-warning-about-myrtle-beach-as-coronavirus-cases-spike/?fbclid=IwAR3SXcOJCcJLWR4w7ovupsXre6rcKm9Ek4t-d-Bm70lZGhlfjkWojWg8lNU

I don’t remember her appearing at all during those years, she might have popped up in ‘03 but if she did I missed it. Colleen left in the spring of ‘04 but came back to visit for Christmas. The first time I remember seeing Traci again since her 01/02 appearances was definitely in early 06 when John left to go to jail.

Did B&B ever air on KIRO before 1995? KIRO and KSL were both CBS affiliates owned by a Mormon broadcasting company, and that B&B didn’t air those markets until they flopped affiliations to different stations (KUTV in Salt Lake and and for a few years KSTW was the CBS station for Seattle). KSL, still Mormon owned moved Days to overnights because of the Will & Sonny storyline and still do today. They use to be the dominant station in the market but their lead has completely unraveled the past decade from what I understand.

I had forgot about the Lyla/Katie stuff, interesting someone tried at the helm tried to walk it back in that Christmas ep yet ironically her grandson was busted for theft. Sheesh. But yeah, other soaps have used it as well. Around the same time Aaron came back GL was doing a story of where Marina came back because Eleni was trapped in an abusive relationship. The less said about Fletcher dumping Ben off in a boarding school to fend for his own the better. Sheffer later also used elements of the issue for Ricky and very strangely Fenmore on Y&R to disastrous results.

Definitely agree about Julie, at the time I was interested in seeing where the stuff with Carly and Julie was headed until I got the word Julie was out like the week before. Ugh. When Aaron came to town in '02 he came in as a runaway with the Snyders finding out Caleb & Julie had been reckless/irresponsible/neglectful of him, something of course Sheffer pulled later on Days (Jeremy Horton being neglected, possible abused by Mike). His 2005 departure was because he found out Julie was terminally ill with cancer and was on hospice. Sheesh! I think in his 07-08 return he mentioned briefly she had recovered in a throwaway line and weren't even mentioned when Aaron came back for Holden's "funeral" in '09.

He came back for a couple episodes to see Tammy after Sandy's death and visited Lizzie(Rylan had just taken over) for like an ep. In the transition period from Weston to Kriezman a lot of old references came popping up. It was just a relief after Weston's GL had completely twisted and ruined all GL canon that existed prior to 2003.

I dug up this news article from 2001, here's the gist of it:

@kalbir That move to a 4PM timeslot was wild and obscene for Love of Life, it had to be a show killing move on purpose. It didn’t help the show at the time was heavily panned due it having bizarre stories not seen since the days of radio and early TV soaps. I’ve read some stations aired it a day behind at 3:30 after GL or in the mornings, even airing the final episode on 2/4/80 since they were a day behind(!).